I have always thought this is a great car, but just saw some interior pics and discussion about it on another forum ( to be modified!) and thought I would post it here, in any attempt to keep it owned by a stocker!
I dont know the owner, or the car, but I think these pics speak for themselves! It is original paint Diamond green.
It's not far from the condition of my lhd all original 55, and I would want more than 4k for that if I were to sell it ( which I am not) even with my roof dents!
[url=https://www.pre67vw.com/classifieds/detail.aspx?id=1035]https://www.pre67vw.com/classifieds/detail.aspx?id=1035[/url]
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Posted by: six-o-one - 16 October 2008 13:33:45
I would love to take that on but I've already got the '58 waiting!
M
:d
Posted by: Standard split - 16 October 2008 20:38:01
With wing beading and rear light rubbers painted over I doubt that the exterior paint is original :?:
Original paint on the inside is nothing unusual. It is a nice car though and would look good driving around as it looks :wink:
Posted by: Kev - 16 October 2008 23:11:02
There looks to be og blue paint under the back seat and bottom of the door, unless its primer ???
Wasn't this car for sale on here a while ago ?
Kev
Posted by: harveypj - 16 October 2008 23:17:28
100% primer. My 58 was the same. I was quite surprised how thin the base colour coat was in places, particularly the bottoms of the doors. Might just be a metalic thing?
Posted by: Volkswagen Weddings - 16 October 2008 23:23:19
Actually she has had paintwork in the past, I only discovered this when I pulled her out of the barn to wash her for the first time in seven years of me owning her. And even when I first purchased her and draged her out of the barn in Exeter I hadn't noticed, due to the fact that the old guy had coated her in wax with a five inch brush back in 1981 when he put her away.
So yes she has had paintwork and I have tried to revise the classified but it wont let me?? I dont want to mislead anyone in any way.
Having said that, It doesn't take much away from the fact that she is still a beautiful old girl.
Anyway, she's now been given a new brake and fuel system and just completed her first mile in 27 years.
If she doesn't go to a good home she'll stay with me and see the road once more next year. ( Which really is what I want, :lol: :lol:
Posted by: mrsherbie - 17 October 2008 11:22:46
I would'nt worry, I think old repaints with patina are perfectly acceptable nowadays, so long as the seller says so, especially when a car is over 50 years old and so original otherwise. I must admit I did think it was in almost too good! condition for og metallic, as they go flat SO fast, much more so than the flat colours like my beige car. And whereas my flat non metallic paint polished up, I have tried to do a metallic and they just dont come up at all once the lacquer has worn off. But it does look like a very accurate diamond green. Such a super colour. Also the bottoms of those doors and under rear seat say the car is in very good shape indeed.
I found the thread going about the car on the other forum a pretty funny read :lol: I love the way people are quick to brag about solid rustfree og uk ovals being ten a penny and easily found! The fact that Julian Robinson is very admirably restoring that frightening 53 is evidence enough that UK rhd cars are very special indeed.
I almost wish I owned a rhd uk oval because if I did I would run an online register for them because someone really needs to!
Yes, I can find you hundreds of shiny restored cars for sale complete with nasty tmi interiors and heavily repaired full body restos, put back together plastered with repro parts & accessories
Its taken me 20yrs of vw's to get my og oval, not 5 minutes searching!! And to be fair I would'nt have found it without Owen, as it never went up for sale anywhere.
I know yours is a 56 (not 54/55 as following samba thread) but your engine looks very correct ( I am not expert on engines!) a lot like mine which I didnt even realise was so correct until I read this thread on the samba! I have posted my engine on there:
[url=https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=179439&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0]https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=179439&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0[/url]
I have always found that personal cars owned by people who work daily in the vw scene ( ie. not just cars being handled for a living) are usually the good ones, and judging by the bottom door shot and under rear seat it is pretty clear that this is a very good solid car as it looks just like mine.
Funnily enough we bought a 65 this year that we thought was og paint as it was flat and chalky and the correct colour, I only discovered it was'nt after we'd had it for a couple of months (has had an exterior only repaint many years ago) when I washed it for the first time also! :lol:
I look forward to seeing your car out next year anyway. And by the way I would'nt even consider selling my leftie for £4k! :d
Posted by: Ovalbug - 17 October 2008 12:46:06
Its a lovely car Anna, and I hope it finds a good home to have a 100% stock resto, but I don't think it is quite as solid as may first appear ..............
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Still worth 4K?
:wink:
Posted by: pre67vw - 17 October 2008 14:05:28
[quote=Ovalbug]
Still worth 4K?
:wink: [/quote]
If it was LHD it would be worth less than half that, so how much does being RHD add?
Posted by: mrsherbie - 17 October 2008 14:46:18
[quote=Ovalbug]
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Still worth 4K?
:wink: [/quote]
Yes, because if it was mine thats what I would also want for it. I think it is the right price and wouldnt accept a penny less based only on the photo's on the net. And equally, like the seller, I 'do not need' to sell any of my cars either, like lots of people on pre67 forum, but far less so on V**
So when I do I can afford to ask what I believe is correct market value (like the seller)
V** is hardly the most reliable index for vw prices! :lol:
And if the VLY 91 plate is going back on the car? There is over half the money right there!! Yet everyone seems to have overlooked this minor detail??!!
And for the record, an unwelded lhd complete driving oval with an interior as good as the 56 would not be worth less than £2k Rob, as you know having recently searched for one.
This car looks to need a bit less welding than my 50 did.
So lets put it into perspective and remember that both the 56 and my 55 are unwelded honest cars, as those pics above are VERY blown up huge pics of small holes, especially in the footwell lower corner of the bulkhead (look at the size of the vent trim in the pic!!) which is an area that virtually ALL pre57 cars need work on. Admittedly my car has no rust here, but then it is not a uk rhd either. The bonnet is oddly bad on the green car like at some point it has sat under a gutter, but still it is fixable ( my bonnet is not rusty but has 3 splits of 1 inch each that I need to repair)
I have found a hole in my rear corner now also, (although my heater channels are perfect) and you notice this wing needs repair as the bottom corner under the stoneguard has gone!
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And here is the wider shot ( no repaint or resto here) you see how the hole and wing repair does'nt seem so bad now? :wink: And dont forget my car came from as far North in Sweden as you can drive! not 50 years on SALTY uk roads.
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My spare wheel is the worst part of my car, as you see I have a very similar rusty split all along also, and apparently mostly due to the fact that 54/55 didnt have the lower black round cover, so it would have got wet in here! ( a Wolfparts panel is going to fix this :d )
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As you know Ovalbug I bid on your car also :d BUT the big thing I dont like about UK cars is 'concrete garage disease' that nasty veined surface rust that gets inside. This green car does not have this problem inside and that is indictative to me that it has been kept reasonably dry. It's rot is from road use, which means the rust has not got into every seam, so is much more specific to small areas and so easier to repair.
I am SURE there are a few even more solid unrestored unmessed with UK cars around, but lets be honest its not going to be lots! :lol:
Ovalbug, I think your car was a great buy especially being a rare UK 53!! But feel free to post up pics of the same areas if you are confident that is is better than both mine and the green car?
Its not a competition, and I am not saying the 56 is biggest absolute bargain of the century, but then why should it be? but I also dont think it is so bad as some people are making out?
Are there any other unwelded uk cars for sale at the moment for comparison?
Try buying a uk oval that has multiple patch repairs under the arches and all over it for £2k, and see how much of a pig that is to put right...!
I dont know how much work Chris had to do on his Uk diamond green oval? maybe he will look in and say hello too! :d
Posted by: Volkswagen Weddings - 17 October 2008 16:14:14
Halleluya!!
I always said this was the adults forum!!
Ovalbug/Nessy, Isn't it just nice to see all these cars still alive.
I think my cars worth £4k
Sure it's got some rust issues, but there must be only a handfull [u]UK RHD [/u]cars (if that) that haven't.
Come and take a look at her
Those pictures were taken straight after I pulled her out of storage and still have 27 years of road poo under the arches.
Anyway, didn't realise she would cause so must controversy so hopefully you'll see me driving her at a vintage show next year.
Posted by: pre67vw - 17 October 2008 17:01:34
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And for the record, an unwelded lhd complete driving oval with an interior as good as the 56 would not be worth less than £2k Rob, as you know having recently searched for one.
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It might sound odd, but I actually struggled to find a lhd oval - they all seemed to be rhd (although mostly imports).
I personally don't think it's worth £4k, I only consider unwelded to be valuable if the car is solid and doesn't actually [i]need[/i] welding, otherwise you still have a big welding bill to add to it. But I also don't get excited over 'UK' cars, or put much value into number plates - but thats just me and my opinion.
Volkswagen Weddings can advertise their car for whatever they believe it's worth, and if they get it then they would have been right.
Posted by: mrsherbie - 17 October 2008 17:58:32
I know what you mean, there do seem to have been quite a few rhd imports about this year, and I am the same as you, not really fussed about the uk car thing myself, although I like plates :oops: :lol:
But still plates out on the open market nothing to do with vw's have a value, and that plate being a 3 letter 2 no. is a £2k plate at least. Likewise ovals have a market value and any [u]driving[/u] complete half tidy stock oval is worth £2k before you factor in a nice useable interior.
Also welding up a previously unwelded/messed with car takes far less time and is far more likely to end up with perfect gaps and a better finish in less time than a car with old repairs/panels replaced already, so there is a saving.
There is far less gamble in this car than buying an £8k(double) splitbus right now, as buses are on the slide, and beetles on the rise in popularity again ( albeit slow!)
And a proper clean truly rustfree unwelded uk oval that looks nice is going to cost more than £4k! although that will buy you the same rustfree post57 car.
Interestingly this is another uk rhd 55 pic pinched from the samba so I hope he does'nt mind! with the identical spare wheel issue and after a lovely repair!
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Posted by: Ovalbug - 18 October 2008 02:40:55
I really hope that the green oval does eventually find a good home and it gets the treatment it deserves, I love it and have no issue with the car or the owner.....:wink:
Personally I just don't see it currently worth £4k, but hey the seller can decide what he wants for it or to whom he sells.....
My car isn't perfect and I'm sure areas of grot will reveal themselves once the car is systematically taken apart , my point of posting on the forum *that cannot be named* :lol: , was simply that I bought a solid rhd '53 for half what the green oval seller is asking......albeit 17 months ago!
Posted by: mrsherbie - 19 October 2008 14:52:04
I do think you got a winner with your 53 Ovalbug!! :d And if it were today, I think it would be selling for at least a £1000 or more than then. Similarly Gertie, the lovely brown oval!
Have you found out how many uk 53's there are left yet?
It is worth mentioning though that prices have changed a bit since a year ago, I know we are now in heavier financial times, but during this year there has been a noticeable shift of people looking for beetles instead of buses again. A year or 3 ago beetle prices were absolutely on the floor. Not the case now.
Soon people will be importing beetles from USA again like they were back in the late 80's/90's instead of buses that have ruled imports for the last 6-8? years!
And as just 1 person pointed out over there, £4k is HARDLY the biggest financial risk anyone ever took on a car! :lol: My daily has depreciated more than that much in the last 2yrs alone.
SO, I decided to search the V** classifieds for UK RHD OVALS that have been advertised for sale on there, for comparison, on the basis that just about everyone on there are saying such cars are ten a penny!! :roll: (apart from only a couple of people who actually DO OWN a comparable original [u]UK OVAL[/u])
I looked back as far as JAN 08 (before I got bored!) and did not turn up even 1 single oval that still had 97% of its original parts, wings, panels, interior and og number plate for UNDER £4k..!?? :shock: :lol: :beer:
YES, LOTS of cheap projects, or very incomplete cars with no wings included or restored cars with welding done, incorrect parts and or commonly, repro wings fitted ( real wings alone add £1k to all these cars remember)
(And a couple of superb real bargain lefties and rhd OZ cars, but we cannot include these)
Even on the directly linked readers ride thread, there are plenty of wrong cars that are not comparable or not sold recently enough to be comparable, except just 1 fully restored uk standard ( non oval wings though I think)
Also, it seems to me that the original guy looking is being completely realistic (unlike most of the other people posting on there giving 'advice' :roll: ) and also he has the skills to get together a great car that needs a bit of welding doing in his own garage for under £8k even on a £4k base car.
Look at some of the much later piles of rust that people are 'restoring' who are going to end up spending well over £8k (although they might not realise it yet!) only to end up with a very average welded up to death with gsf cheap panels pile of a vw with zero rarity or long term added value. People are 'restoring' rusty old British 1303's for Cliffs sake!!
So good Luck to him whatever he buys! :d
Now I am off to have a well earned sleep on the sofa following my daughters 20hr party/sleepover for 9 very hectic 10yr old girls :shock:
Posted by: GKL 7 - 19 October 2008 17:13:34
Who's Cliff?
One thing to bare in mind 'tho,Rust is always at LEAST three times worse than it outwardly appears.We've all had a go at that tiny stone chip that ends up the size of a 50p.
I'm not saying the car is not worth the asking price but there is a fair amount of work IF it's going to be done right.
I personally would not pay the asking price because i see no advantage in the car being RHD,i could pick up a LHD car of the same age and condition for a third of the price.
And possibly strange to some prefare my old Volkswagens LHD.
Posted by: Last Triumph - 19 October 2008 17:35:30
[quote=mrsherbie]
Also, it seems to me that the original guy looking is being completely realistic (unlike most of the other people posting on there giving 'advice' :roll: ) and also he has the skills to get together a great car that needs a bit of welding doing in his own garage for under £8k even on a £4k base car.
Look at some of the much later piles of rust that people are 'restoring' who are going to end up spending well over £8k (although they might not realise it yet!) only to end up with a very average welded up to death with gsf cheap panels pile of a vw with zero rarity or long term added value. People are 'restoring' rusty old British 1303's for Cliffs sake!!
So good Luck to him whatever he buys! :d
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Thank you.
The thread got a bit out of hand to be honest, and in hindsight, it probably wasn't such a good idea posting pics of someone else's car on a public forum, for which I have apologised. I am not an expert on Ovals and was tying to find out what the market value might be.
I've only just discovered this forum - it's nice to see there is still plenty of people dedicated to preserving these cars how they left the factory, something that very much appeals to me.
My seach continues for an early unmolestered car that can be used as a rolling resto.
All the best.
Posted by: mrsherbie - 19 October 2008 23:02:09
[quote='50 Karmann]Who's Cliff? [/quote]
Sorry fell into a Young Ones moment :oops: :lol:
Yes, I am sure there will be some hidden rust to be found, and I will always opt for Left over rust also, but at the same time I see the appeal the special uk car thing :d
Last Triumph, I am sure your perfect car will pop up. I would'nt worry, I dont think you have done the diamond car any harm at all, it is what it is, a proper good honest British old age pensioner! :d In fact I think your thread was probably pretty educational for lots of people who read it.
I also realise most people rarely agree with me (most of the time!) :lol:
Anna :d
Posted by: Ovalbug - 20 October 2008 09:26:40
[quote=mrsherbie]I do think you got a winner with your 53 Ovalbug!! :d And if it were today, I think it would be selling for at least a £1000 or more than then. Similarly Gertie, the lovely brown oval!
Have you found out how many uk 53's there are left yet?
It is worth mentioning though that prices have changed a bit since a year ago, I know we are now in heavier financial times, but during this year there has been a noticeable shift of people looking for beetles instead of buses again. A year or 3 ago beetle prices were absolutely on the floor. Not the case now.
Soon people will be importing beetles from USA again like they were back in the late 80's/90's instead of buses that have ruled imports for the last 6-8? years!
[/quote]
Mmm, food for thought there Anna; really thought that what I'd paid was the going rate, didn't know I'd bought an appreciating asset :lol: .
Not that I'd sell it , had wanted an oval for years before getting my hands on it...
Haven't discovered yet how many UK '53s are around, a shame there isn't an oval register!
I know there has been talk on The Samba about one but a register of OG British cars would be just as interesting/worthwhile IMHO!
:wink:
Posted by: 55Kab - 21 October 2008 06:19:08
[quote=mrsherbie]Interestingly this is another uk rhd 55 pic pinched from the samba so I hope he does'nt mind! with the identical spare wheel issue and after a lovely repair![/quote]
My first post here (must be turning to the 'other' Dark Side!!!:lol: )
Of course I don't mind Anna and for your info that wheel well will soon have a lovely repair - see pic below!:d
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Oh, and you should start a UK Oval registery:wink: Long overdue is that.
Posted by: mrsherbie - 21 October 2008 10:38:06
[quote=Ovalbug]
Really thought that what I'd paid was the going rate, didn't know I'd bought an appreciating asset :lol: .
:wink: [/quote]
It was 'then' but has definitely gone up a bit since. In fact, both our beige cars even though they have not turned a wheel on the road yet in the last year+, have appreciated a fair amount since we got them! :beer: :d Three cheers for immobile indoor investments! :lol:
[quote=55Kab]
My first post here (must be turning to the 'other' Dark Side!!!:lol: )
Oh, and you should start a UK Oval registery:wink: Long overdue is that.[/quote]
I know I am a stocker and a lover of og paint but I also know I am speaking for everyone on this forum when I say that I am SO happy to see that uk Kab being restored with no expense spared, the best metal and some of the most skilled people in the uk :beer: :d
Unfortunately I have never owned any UK vw's since my 1303 in the *cough* late 80's :oops: I have always avoided buying old British vw's like the plague! :lol: And my own knowledge of ovals is very limited at the moment as my beige 55 is my Fisher Price 'my first oval'. So I just dont think I am a qualified person to do it really!
The register would have to include EVERY uk oval chassis number, (but not too many details so as to compromise security) the good the bad and the ugly!, I think even pans and kits and buggys on uk oval pans to be any real use, so it needs someone to do it who's interested enough to span all these cars. But I am sure it would'nt be very much work once set up.
But if anyone uses Mac and wants to use the software I used to build our site ( quite easy! ( wysiwyg ) I will happily lend it!
If no one has done it by the time our new house is finished being built by late next year then I will happily build an independent one entirely away from our own site.
(But I am hoping we can beat pre67 Rob up enough to force him to do it by submission/guilt alone :lol:)
Posted by: pre67vw - 21 October 2008 13:20:49
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(But I am hoping we can beat pre67 Rob up enough to force him to do it by submission/guilt alone :lol:)
[/quote]
How about starting a new thread to start collecting the data? It'll be easy to build something, the hard part is getting the info.
:d
Posted by: 55Kab - 21 October 2008 15:42:14
[quote=mrsherbie]I know I am a stocker and a lover of og paint but I also know I am speaking for everyone on this forum when I say that I am SO happy to see that uk Kab being restored with no expense spared, the best metal and some of the most skilled people in the uk :beer: :d
(But I am hoping we can beat pre67 Rob up enough to force him to do it by submission/guilt alone :lol:)[/quote]
Tks Anna. I've been a stealth member of pre67 for some time as my interest in VW's is broad enough to appreciate standard cars, they're just not for me!:wink: Being an OG UK RHD Oval car, the Cab is worthy of a full-on rebuild, although I do admit it will be staying Resto-Cal, although not as low and with not such a narrow front end.
I am however planning to keep irraversable pan mods to the very minimum so at a later date is could be easily returned to stock (there'll be no body mods). Once completed, the original engine, trans, front beam and a set of standard wheels will all be restored and will be kept with the car. Clearly the car is very rare, but with it in the condition it's in, I don't feel any quilt about my plans...would be different story if it had been an OG untouched car:lol:
BTW, anyone got any idea how many UK RHD Oval Cabs survive? I can count less than 10:shock: Another reason for the register!
Talking of the register, I think you are more than qualified. From reading your posts both here and on Samba, you know a lot about early VW's. However, that said, I do think that it really should form part of this website - another tab on the homepage eh Rob?:wink: :lol:
Posted by: 55Kab - 21 October 2008 15:58:19
[quote=pre67vw]
How about starting a new thread to start collecting the data? It'll be easy to build something, the hard part is getting the info.
:d [/quote]
Rob, see my post back to Anna. I do really think a UK Oval register should form part of this site as there's no other site better suited. I wondered how many RHD cars were left and posted a request for pics on Vzi.
Question is, do you include all UK Oval's or just RHD UK supplied cars?
If you were able to create a new tab on the homepage for the register I would be willing to help you out re submitting data. Easiest thing would be to submit an electronic flyer to all well known websites (Samba, RW, Vzi, Historic VWOC GB etc) asking for people to submit their info and pics. In fact thinking about it, perhaps there should be a register for all post57-pre67 Beetles - certainly UK cars.
From my wander round at Action (yeah I know, not the best event), after 15 years or so away from AC VW's, I could not believe how little the number of pre67 OG UK RHD cars wearing their original reggys there were about. Can't have been more than 15 - made me wonder from the days of events like Stonor, Detling and Bodium Castle '86...where they all gone???:shock: :lol:
In my view register should detail following with owners choice whether they want name, county and reggy listed.
YEAR CHASSIS No. REG OG COLOUR COLOUR NOW OG ENGINE? OWNER LOCATION (county) PICS NOTES
What ya reckon?
Posted by: six-o-one - 21 October 2008 17:34:05
[quote=55Kab]
YEAR CHASSIS No. REG OG COLOUR COLOUR NOW OG ENGINE? OWNER LOCATION (county) PICS NOTES
What ya reckon?
[/quote]
You would also need another heading to list modifications.
But then they wouldn't be allowed on this site! :wink:
Posted by: GKL 7 - 21 October 2008 20:03:42
I still maintain this should be a pre '53 ONLY website. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Posted by: Volkswagen Weddings - 21 October 2008 21:58:26
[quote=55Kab]
Tks Anna. I've been a stealth member of pre67 for some time as my interest in VW's is broad enough to appreciate standard cars, they're just not for me!:wink: Being an OG UK RHD Oval car, the Cab is worthy of a full-on rebuild, although I do admit it will be staying Resto-Cal, although not as low and with not such a narrow front end.
:wink: :lol: [/quote]
Hey 55Kab
Say if I asked you really nicely and said pretty please, would you consider a stock restoration then?:lol: :lol:
Posted by: 55Kab - 22 October 2008 07:29:44
[quote=Volkswagen Weddings]would you consider a stock restoration then[/quote]
Nooooooo...too boring!:lol: :lol:
Posted by: Trailer Queen Restos - 22 October 2008 08:42:59
I think this car is well worth saving being an og british rhd car.
Whoever does buy it i've got 6 litres of standox vw diamond green solvent base for sale, bought for another job that never materialized.
Incidentely the pic of the repaired spare wheel well on here is of Paul Denham's og uk rhd 56 rag that i did a full body resto on and it needed a lot more body work than this car does believe me!! but paul wanted to save his og uk car at any cost so the extent of the repairs was'nt an issue.
Check out his resto thread.
https://restowagenuk.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=7769
Posted by: mrsherbie - 22 October 2008 12:36:09
[quote=55Kab]
1. Question is, do you include all UK Oval's or just RHD UK supplied cars?
2 & 3. If you were able to create a new tab on the homepage for the register I would be willing to help you out re submitting data. Easiest thing would be to submit an electronic flyer to all well known websites (Samba, RW, Vzi, Historic VWOC GB etc) asking for people to submit their info and pics. In fact thinking about it, perhaps there should be a register for all post57-pre67 Beetles - certainly UK cars.
4. In my view register should detail following with owners choice whether they want name, county and reggy listed.
YEAR CHASSIS No. REG OG COLOUR COLOUR NOW OG ENGINE? OWNER LOCATION (county) PICS NOTES
What ya reckon?
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I think:
1. only include UK cars, I think OZ and SA cars are so different, let those countries run their own.
2. Top idea, or to make less work for one single person(Rob! :oops: ) we could probably just individually post on forums, especially Restowagen as those guys are hoovering all the rhd cars up faster than James Dyson's cyclone!!*! :lol: and email everyone from our own email and ask anyone we know to include it in their club newsletters? It would also be easy to mention to people whenever we see one ( gives me an excuse to chat to even more strangers! :lol: )
3. I think initially ONLY PRE-58 uk cars. There are far too many pre67 cars, maybe in future but only if Rob chose to! as I think that would be a much bigger job! (Although as 'pre67' it would be pretty cool here :d )
4. In a similar vein, I was also thinking as you mention maybe [u]UK pre67 Karmann Kabriolets register[/u] also would be a very good idea? Could be a short list though :shock: :d Again I dont have one myself :? (I need more cars :lol: ) But Rob does! :idea:
5. My fear would be that people ( like me) might be nervous about too much info being posted on the net about their cars & location from a theft/stolen identitiy perspective. Especially as you can search the dvla with a reg no and manufacturer to show a vehicle is currently on the road.
For example we would not put our samba or pork chop on an online register!
So, I think all the info you put above is perfect! and would be ideal held on a database document offline? I would also add 1 more, BODY/MODEL DESIGNATION CODE from tag ie. 11G (53 only?) then 1/17 ( will determine sunroofs, standards etc ( etc? :shock: :lol: )
But I would only show on the net, YEAR - CHASSIS No. - MODEL - COLOUR NOW - LOCATION (county only)
what do you think?
As soon as we have all decided/agree'd we will be ready to post a 'UK RHD OVAL SURVIVORS REGISTER' thread' on this forum :beer:
[quote=six-o-one]
You would also need another heading to list modifications.
But then they wouldn't be allowed on this site! :wink: [/quote]
You are a WORSE troublemaker than me! :shock: (ok maybe not :lol: )
[quote='50 Karmann]I still maintain this should be a pre '53 ONLY website. :lol: :lol: :lol: [/quote]
Who rattled your crystal glass of Remy Louis XIII and lit your pipe?!
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BKRZTalEys&feature=related]pre53 only[/url]
:lol: x
Posted by: pre67vw - 22 October 2008 14:23:51
[quote=mrsherbie]
1. only include UK cars
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Thats the only thing I have a bit of an issue with really, I've never wanted this site to be UK specific and even less so with the demise of kabriolett.com. But I don't see why country can't be included in such a way as its easy to view just the UK cars.
Posted by: six-o-one - 22 October 2008 15:04:16
[quote=pre67vw]
Thats the only thing I have a bit of an issue with really, I've never wanted this site to be UK specific and even less so with the demise of kabriolett.com. But I don't see why country can't be included in such a way as its easy to view just the UK cars.[/quote]
I thought the whole point of this was to try and establish how many original, UK registered, RHD pre '58 cars are still in existence?
Or is it cars which have been exported too?
:?:
Posted by: mrsherbie - 22 October 2008 19:49:38
[quote=pre67vw]
Thats the only thing I have a bit of an issue with really, I've never wanted this site to be UK specific and even less so with the demise of kabriolett.com. But I don't see why country can't be included in such a way as its easy to view just the UK cars.[/quote]
I agree, that would be ideal! But in the beginning I was thinking of your workload more than anything.
All beetles up to -58 with country would be awesome as then us chav Swedish cars could be on it too! :d ( its about time these RHD snobs were put in their place anyway.. :lol: )
What about each car listing line in a different colour text dictated by its original export country?
Or export country listed but also with a small country flag next to each listing to show where it currently lives? Useful for people trying to find other Australian ovals for reference for example when restoring, as this is where so much of these cars uniqueness is lost.
Or country listed and just RHD and LHD car listings line in a different colour text?
Does any of this make sense? It does in my head but that does'nt mean a lot :lol:
So long as we stay 'beetles only', we can keep that life in the slow lane bloke excluded :lol: :lol:
Posted by: mrsherbie - 22 October 2008 19:55:58
Kevin (Wiggy) took on the Kabriolett.com registers did'nt he? was it just Split beetles and Kabs? I dont remember now, but I dont remember ovals?
Posted by: GKL 7 - 22 October 2008 21:02:03
[quote='50 Karmann]I still maintain this should be a pre '53 ONLY website. :lol: :lol: :lol: [/quote]
Yeah couldn't agree more.
That's two votes then.
Posted by: mrsherbie - 22 October 2008 21:05:56
[quote='50 Karmann]I still maintain this should be a pre '83 ONLY website. :lol: :lol: :lol: [/quote]
Excellent! Thanks I have been dying to add my '79 beetle! :beer: :lol:
Posted by: GKL 7 - 22 October 2008 21:10:05
[quote=mrsherbie]
Excellent! Thanks I have been dying to add my POS '79 beetle! :beer: :lol:
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:twisted:
Posted by: mrsherbie - 23 October 2008 11:27:38
[quote='50 Karmann]
:twisted: [/quote]
:shock: [-x I am a fellow hair dresser now I have a Karmann vitually identical to yours :wink: You should really be nicer to me now :d x
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOIrEyAvot8[/url]
[img]https://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-9/1321960/tg.jpg[/img]
Posted by: GKL 7 - 23 October 2008 19:57:24
Welcome to the club friend.:wink:
But no self respecting good looking blonde like yourself should be seen within ten feet of that pile.
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 01 November 2008 22:06:18
[quote=mrsherbie]Similarly Gertie, the lovely brown oval![/quote]
Gertie blushed a little when I told her she was being talked about on Pre 67!
Posted by: Si Med - 01 May 2009 23:58:49
Hi folks. just thought i would chime in with what has happened with this controversial car. My father and I went to see it and between the two of us knew anything needed could be done without much hassle.
Any way after a few wolf parts and many late nights, it went for its first MOT in 28 years last week :D
The car still looks the same externally and will hopefully be out and about this summer.
Si
Posted by: tman - 02 May 2009 00:18:32
[quote=Si Med]The car still looks the same externally and will hopefully be out and about this summer.[/quote]
Stanford Hall this coming Sunday?! :d
Posted by: Si Med - 02 May 2009 00:34:08
I wish buddy, but need to be elsewhere it kills me not to be there! Have a good weekend!
Posted by: stu - 07 May 2009 16:11:30
post some pics up of how it looks now on the road...
Posted by: Si Med - 07 May 2009 18:57:29
Hi Stu, i will most defiantly get some pics up. Although it may take a few weeks for them. Im just waiting for all registration papers to return and then we will be out grabbing some location shots :D
P.S it really does not look all that different, excluding the bloody great rusty holes :D
