pic of my 52 zwitter
went in for mot yesterday fingers crossed does'nt need much doing
it's solid little car apart from the paint :p
still in original chestnut brown
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Posted by: vintagevw - 25 January 2009 17:28:46
I should leave it,
Just have fun to drive it and take it to Hessisch Oldendorf this year!
If you don't like to drive it you can always sell it to me! :lol:
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 25 January 2009 17:49:30
If its original paint leave it, if its not then still leave it! IMHO!
Our 55 is is its original colur (a very good match) but was resprayed in 87! The paint is still good and we have no desire to respray it!
But at the end of the day it is your choice and you should do what you feel is righyt for both you but more importantly the car!:wink: If the paint is going to make the body deteriorate then in my opinion it needs doing now rather than in a few years when it may need welding
Possibly a similar situation to [url=https://forums.pre67vw.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=14715]Peter Harvey and his 58[/url]
Yet another brown car on pre67, what does that mkae it now? Three I think!:wink:
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 25 January 2009 20:15:02
More pics????????:wink:
Posted by: harveypj - 25 January 2009 20:35:44
Here we go again :lol:
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 25 January 2009 20:38:20
[quote=harveypj]Here we go again :lol:
[/quote]
:lol:
And the saga continues!
Hope you dont mind me linking to your thread, just thought it made a very good point! Originality is best but having a car that rots in front of you eyes isnt!:wink:
Posted by: harveypj - 25 January 2009 20:43:17
How bad is the paint?
just remember: rust only ever gets worse.
Paint it now or...... weld it later,in which case you'll have to paint it anyway.
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 25 January 2009 20:46:19
[quote=harveypj]How bad is the paint?
just remember: rust only ever gets worse.
Paint it now or...... weld it later,in which case you'll have to paint it anyway.
[/quote]
Agreed!
Thats been my ethos with my 63! It had a few bits of rust bubbling in the gutters so I decided to dig it out and repaint the gutters! I will not look as good when it is finished but I can be happy knowing that the car will not need major welding in a few years time!
This will not add value to my car but it will give me peace of mind!:wink:
Posted by: harveypj - 25 January 2009 20:52:11
[quote=54 Gertie]
This will not add value to my car but it will give me peace of mind!:wink: [/quote]
Don't be so sure Will, Give it a few years and it will be worth more than if it had continued to rust:wink:
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 25 January 2009 20:56:03
[quote=harveypj]
Don't be so sure Will, Give it a few years and it will be worth more than it it had continued to rust:wink: [/quote]
True and I have no intention of selling!
All I need to do now is find the little S**T driving around with my original engine! A garage a few years ago supposedly replaced the engine becasue it was "knackered" and then the owner of the garage was driving around with the engine in the back of his 63!:twisted:
I WILL find it!:wink:
Posted by: dry&heavy - 25 January 2009 21:00:10
[quote=54 Gertie]More pics????????:wink: [/quote]
prob will sort it out after my 59 has had it's respray back to coral red
need this to drive to work while that's being done [ATTACH]2432[/Attach] [ATTACH]2433[/Attach]
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 25 January 2009 21:02:31
Driving a zwitter to work, I envy you!:d 8)
all original apart from the wheels according to Volkszone!:wink:
Bloody rare, well done!:beer:
Posted by: dry&heavy - 25 January 2009 21:52:25
yeh the one thing i thought missing/changed was the interior light but it's got the one without a switch so happy about that
all trim and handles are dull chrome and the ashtray does'nt have the handle
plus the seat's have been covered at some point but the original cloth seats are still underneath in good order:d
one of the heart tail lights has been replaced with a blue one but easy to change colour
also missing one runner board, batwing horn in steering wheel, and front wolfsburg badge
was missing glove box front but vw garden helped me out with that already
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 25 January 2009 21:59:00
[quote=dry&heavy]
plus the seat's have been covered at some point but the original cloth seats are still underneath in good order:d [/quote]
Probably protected it! Suprised that the paint has faded that much for a swedish car!:wink:
Posted by: dry&heavy - 25 January 2009 22:01:59
yeh paint sort of sold it to me looked sad needed some TLC
knowing my luck prob sat in a scrap yard for years out there
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 25 January 2009 22:04:40
Just noticed its on sprints, Nice wheels but I prefer originals!:wink:
Posted by: dry&heavy - 25 January 2009 23:30:44
yeh i'm gonna leave those wheels on at the moment
only thing i did spend £££ on was a Stainless Steel Abarth Exhaust but it does look nice
Posted by: GKL 7 - 26 January 2009 19:23:53
Aren't Zwitters great,i love 'em.
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 26 January 2009 19:28:27
[quote='50 Karmann]Aren't Zwitters great,i love 'em.[/quote]
I always wish they made reverse Zwitters with an oval window and a split dash! :wink:
How cool would that be, the best bits of both era car in one!:wink: :lol:
Posted by: mrsherbie - 26 January 2009 20:48:44
:beer:
OOh Its lovely! :d
( I am still totally amazed you found 2 almost identical zwitters at the same time! :shock: )
For me, and because it looks like it is still shiny! I would try first to keep it waxed constantly and not paint it. My oval I wax because it is beige so the 'white' wax residue is ok, but our brown 50 that is a bit more surface rusty and also brown is ankor waxed which works perfectly because the wax/oil is also brown.
But if you do decide to ankor wax and then later decide to repaint it you will have problems getting it off and new paint over.
Its a decision alright! :?
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 26 January 2009 21:00:50
[quote=mrsherbie]
Its a decision alright! :?
[/quote]
Yeah, its a difficult one to call!
(not that its for us to do!:wink: :lol: )
Posted by: dry&heavy - 26 January 2009 21:56:54
[quote=mrsherbie]:beer:
OOh Its lovely! :d
( I am still totally amazed you found 2 almost identical zwitters at the same time! :shock: )
[/quote]
yeh it's funny both zwitter's are the same colour, age & both from sweeden,
have also found another zwitter for sale, but it's a green one & have to say brown are much nicer
are you going to buy Owen that other one for a pressie :d
i will drag this one over when it's got a mot
one main difference i can tell so far between them is the door cards, on the other one it's all the same colour, where mine's a two tone brown
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Posted by: mrsherbie - 27 January 2009 19:55:40
[quote=dry&heavy]
are you going to buy Owen that other one for a pressie :d
i will drag this one over when it's got a mot
[/quote]
Sadly he would have to buy it for me! :lol: and he says not unless I let him have my oval to sell as a swap, no no no! [-x I told him thats not what professional-multi-car-hoarding is all about! and he should know better than to make such poor jokes!*! But he is enforcing strict new rations! ( luckily the new 65bus arrived Saturday, the day before they came into effect! :lol: )
Will be nice to see it sometime over the summer.
:d
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 27 January 2009 20:20:18
[img]https://forums.pre67vw.com/forum/resource.ashx?a=2442[/img]
What, you mean, thats it!:lol: MORE PHOTOS!:wink:
I was about to comment on how lovely the interior of the top picture is, before I bothered to read!:oops: :wink:
Posted by: dry&heavy - 27 January 2009 21:42:15
[quote=mrsherbie]
Will be nice to see it sometime over the summer.
:d
[/quote]
more like a few weeks time :d will drive this everyday for a month while other's been done, then prob will drive it as my daily ride in the end :lol:
still havent heard back about mot yet so im guessing it's all good finger's crossed
hope that other brown zwitter ends up in the uk
will be nice to see your bus
Posted by: dry&heavy - 09 February 2009 22:10:13
quick update
car is almost finished, a solid little thing in the end, have been told by the garage that has pulled the car apart it will go straight through the MOT no problem at all.
:cry: Now i need a 1952 gearbox as mine needs some TLC, fingers crossed im hoping it is only the set up of the linkage, but incase its not,does anyone in england have a suitable gearbox they wish to sell that i can pick up staright away, i have two people on the case looking for one but if they both fall through maybe someone on here can help?
so i can then use this gearbox while i have the origional gearbox in the car reconditioned
many thanks
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 09 February 2009 22:20:11
[quote=dry&heavy]quick update
car is almost finished, a solid little thing in the end. I was told by the garage that has pulled the car apart it will go straight through the MOT no problem at all.
:cry: Now i need a 1952 gearbox as mine needs some TLC, fingers crossed im hoping it is only the set up of the linkage, but incase its not,does anyone in england have a suitable gearbox they wish to sell that i can pick up staright away, i have two people on the case looking for one but if they both fall through maybe someone on here can help?
so i can then use this gearbox while i have the origional gearbox in the car reconditioned
many thanks[/quote]
Im guessing that becasue it is going to be a placeholder the year does not matter!:wink:
Just any swing axle box!:wink:
Noy that I have anything! We currently have no working gearboxes!:lol:
Posted by: dry&heavy - 09 February 2009 22:22:31
well only spare box i have was out of a 59 but havent got round to having 1st gear fixed as that's the spare for my 59 :d
just my luck
as soon as the gearbox is in will have the MOT and will be on the road straight away
Posted by: dry&heavy - 18 February 2009 10:06:19
well found a box came out of a 55
but i dropped of 2 split boxes on sunday, one to have 1st gear fixed and the 55 just so i know its good
was a nice old man it's all his ever done for 46 years working on gearboxes
so at least i will have a spare box, when the 52 box is out will take that over to him as well, and for £75 plus parts cheap as chips
so should have one back by next week :d
Posted by: dry&heavy - 18 February 2009 10:18:24
[quote=54 Gertie]
Yet another brown car on pre67, what does that mkae it now? Three I think!:wink: [/quote]
how come so many little brown bugs
brown is such a nice colour :lol:
how many other people one here have a 52-53 zwitter?
Posted by: GKL 7 - 18 February 2009 19:14:20
[quote=dry&heavy]
how many other people one here have a 52-53 zwitter?[/quote]
Used to have a pastel green '53.
I'd love another Zwitter,they are the perfect vintage VW for driving,the best of all worlds.
Other brown one in Sweden is just a little too much ££££'s,but it's a beaut.
So if any one has a Zwitter they want to sell,let me know.(preferably Brown):d
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 18 February 2009 19:32:26
[quote='50 Karmann]
(preferably Brown):d [/quote]
Brown is under rated in my opinion! I think it is BL Rovers in the 70s that made it uncool!:wink:
Posted by: GKL 7 - 18 February 2009 20:05:44
[quote=54 Gertie]
Brown is under rated in my opinion! I think it is BL Rovers in the 70s that made it uncool!:wink: [/quote]
Were you actually born then:wink:
Brown is a lovely colour it seems to suit an early vw,unlike those awful 70's Brit cars.
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 18 February 2009 20:27:38
[quote='50 Karmann]
Were you actually born then:wink:
Brown is a lovely colour it seems to suit an early vw,unlike those awful 70's Brit cars.[/quote]
Nope!:lol: BL was long gone by that time luckily, and most of there automotive abortions have thankfully rusted away!:wink:
Posted by: dry&heavy - 18 March 2009 21:42:07
the car has it's mot :p so happy, now i can get my 59 in for its respray back to coral red
anyways have three spare split gearboxes now and all work fine
just a quick question anyone have any idea, how long the DVLA take to turn around an application for an aged related uk number plate, as thats all im waiting on now
thank you
Posted by: dubrockers - 18 March 2009 22:01:53
good on you saved from the grave :lol:
sure it will be a nice drive
will you be going to any shows in this, would be nice to have a look have'nt seen many brown bugs
sorry but i have no idea on the number plate side
Posted by: stu - 19 March 2009 19:21:58
[quote=dry&heavy]
yeh it's funny both zwitter's are the same colour, age & both from sweeden,
have also found another zwitter for sale, but it's a green one & have to say brown are much nicer
are you going to buy Owen that other one for a pressie :d
i will drag this one over when it's got a mot
one main difference i can tell so far between them is the door cards, on the other one it's all the same colour, where mine's a two tone brown
[/quote]
you've got 2 zwitters? do you fancy selling one? or do you have any details on the green one? if i dont find a car soon im gunna tear my hair out :lol:
Posted by: dry&heavy - 19 March 2009 21:29:35
[quote=stu]
you've got 2 zwitters? do you fancy selling one? or do you have any details on the green one? if i dont find a car soon im gunna tear my hair out :lol: [/quote]
no all i have is a 1952 & a 1959 mate
that green zwitter is a 53 still for sale its sat up not far from ely near cambridge
is missing a few parts but its solid wont need welding can find more out, its a mate of a mates if you understand
but there is another chestnut brown zwitter for sale as well
still nothing back from DVLA :x
Posted by: kafertoys - 20 March 2009 12:08:44
That is a very nice zwitter.
I'm restoring a nov 52 zwitter for someone here in the US but its a real mess and will take a lot of work before its ever driven.
I have already started buying very sweet panels from Wolf.:p
The more I've gotten in to this Zwitter thing the more I like the idea of keeping them as original as possible.
Keep posting pictures please
Posted by: dry&heavy - 20 March 2009 21:08:12
what would you like pic's of more than happy to help as it's pretty much as it was, what is the colour zwitter you are doing up
i was going to slam my one and stick a big engine in
but could'nt do it but you never know i may get bored :lol:
just liked the idea of some solex 40s on it
Posted by: stu - 20 March 2009 21:10:29
[quote=dry&heavy]
no all i have is a 1952 & a 1959 mate
that green zwitter is a 53 still for sale its sat up not far from ely near cambridge
is missing a few parts but its solid wont need welding can find more out, its a mate of a mates if you understand
but there is another chestnut brown zwitter for sale as well
still nothing back from DVLA :x
[/quote]
hi, could you get a phone number for the green zwitter? im quite interested, do you have any pics of it?, also a number for the brown one, many thanks!
Posted by: dry&heavy - 20 March 2009 21:18:17
[quote=stu]
number for the brown one, many thanks![/quote]
get in touch with owen for the other brown one
the green one i will ask for some pics for you
Posted by: stu - 20 March 2009 21:22:48
[quote=dry&heavy]
get in touch with owen for the other brown one, here's a pic of it, a very nice car
mines just like it but abit more ratty:p
the green one i will ask for some pics for you[/quote]
ok thanks, do you have a number for the green one?
Posted by: stu - 20 March 2009 21:24:02
[quote=dry&heavy]
get in touch with owen for the other brown one, here's a pic of it, a very nice car
mines just like it but abit more ratty:p
the green one i will ask for some pics for you[/quote]
did you get yours from dave @ the split van centre?
Posted by: dry&heavy - 20 March 2009 21:26:48
ah i saw that one he had for sale on his website too
Posted by: mrsherbie - 20 March 2009 21:29:45
I think Owens friend changed his mind about selling his, so its not for sale now anyway :d ^
Posted by: dubrockers - 20 March 2009 21:29:52
that car looks so nice i would buy that:x
Posted by: stu - 20 March 2009 21:31:33
im really interested in the green one, can someone locate a number & ill call them 2moz
Posted by: dry&heavy - 20 March 2009 21:54:53
stu sent you number to call
just spoke to him
Posted by: stu - 21 March 2009 20:01:24
[quote=dry&heavy]stu sent you number to call
just spoke to him[/quote]
hi, just rang him, but his phones going straight to an answer machine, do you have a landline number for him? ta
Posted by: kafertoys - 22 March 2009 13:22:24
I sould move this to the restoration thread but right now I'm looking for pictures of the bottom underside of the rear apron
Also a stock dash I'm sure there is a few to many holes in this one.
Thanks
Posted by: stu - 23 March 2009 12:56:01
well ive now rang the guy with the green zwitter a dozen times & all i get is an answer machine on his mobile, does anyone know who this guy is??, im starting to think this is a windup
Posted by: stu - 27 March 2009 23:03:16
is dry & heavy still using this site??
Posted by: dry&heavy - 11 June 2009 20:08:23
the car has uk plates and have sorted out most of my problems and is looking less rusty now
the 59 has gone in for the spray back to coral red so im using this daily, as it goes it's a nice drive, went over to karmann konnection today for some parts 60mph all the way :d
just a quick question i have some wheels now that im gonna have powder coated but before i do what is the wheel colour combition for a chestnut brown any help
thank you [ATTACH]3174[/Attach]
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 11 June 2009 21:14:01
Glad to hear to sprints are going! 8)
Got any new, nice photos of the car?
Posted by: GKL 7 - 12 June 2009 19:43:34
Chesnut Brown Zwitter.....way8)
Posted by: dubrockers - 13 June 2009 03:25:27
hello strange question dry&heavy, but were you driving up the M3 then onto the M25 today, as i was following a car just like yours all the way
if it was you just have to say one hell of a nice car
Posted by: dry&heavy - 12 July 2009 10:56:47
well i have made my mind up the 52 rust bucket will be havin a respray in october thats been booked now
but im still in shock about the 59 no welding ever and still none, it has been stripped back to nothing and a new coat of coral red makes such a difference, had to go with a tmi headliner :( as i couldnt find an australian one anywhere as they are so differnent to euro ones
was hoping to have back this weekend but not going to rush this along
[img]https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2637/3710452156_74a7a140e1.jpg?v=0[/img]
[img]https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2494/3709642197_425a164db0.jpg?v=0[/img]
Posted by: stu - 13 July 2009 17:18:32
[quote=dry&heavy]the car has uk plates and have sorted out most of my problems and is looking less rusty now
the 59 has gone in for the spray back to coral red so im using this daily, as it goes it's a nice drive, went over to karmann konnection today for some parts 60mph all the way :d
just a quick question i have some wheels now that im gonna have powder coated but before i do what is the wheel colour combition for a chestnut brown any help
thank you[/quote]
i drove past your car earlier, you live in beacon rd in chatham, i used to live about 500 yards from you a few years back, you used to have a blue 70s bug with earlier panels, are you interested in selling the zwitter, i never did manage to get hold of the bloke selling the green zwitter.
Posted by: dry&heavy - 14 July 2009 11:25:09
wow that must of been sometime ago big brother not watching its pre67 scary
so you never saw the red, green or yellow bugs? that blue thing went ages ago yeh a mate had a crash in his 62 so i robbed all the wings etc.. there was an old grey bug sat outside for ages after that
well the rust bucket sort of made mind up, mite keep for a while to much of a funny history with this was an ex rally/race car this one did have 43 on bonnet which you can still see on a good sunny day
can i ask how much you wanna spend on a car as i know a few for sale around country at the mo some need a hell alot of work others just need an mot
Posted by: stu - 14 July 2009 17:58:51
[quote=dry&heavy]wow that must of been sometime ago big brother not watching its pre67 scary
so you never saw the red, green or yellow bugs? that blue thing went ages ago yeh a mate had a crash in his 62 so i robbed all the wings etc.. there was an old grey bug sat outside for ages after that
well the rust bucket sort of made mind up, mite keep for a while to much of a funny history with this was an ex rally/race car this one did have 43 on bonnet which you can still see on a good sunny day
can i ask how much you wanna spend on a car as i know a few for sale around country at the mo some need a hell alot of work others just need an mot
[/quote]
i was originally offered your zwitter about 5 or 6 years ago when it was still in sweden, then kieftenklok got hold of it, then the bloke in gatwick, then someone else?, i had a cheeky look over it the other day when it was parked outside your garage, very cool car, still has the original heater channels which is nice, i rang the number you gave me for that green zwitter, but the bloke never answers his phone, do you know if its still for sale?, got about 5k to play with.
Posted by: GKL 7 - 14 July 2009 20:48:43
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=774433
Over budget Stu,but looks a good solid car and RHD.
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 14 July 2009 21:30:01
[quote='50 Karmann]https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=774433
Over budget Stu,but looks a good solid car and RHD.[/quote]
That's a lovely car George. Trouble is, shipping and duty will absolutely kill you from NZ since the oil price hike. You can probably add £2k Sterling on top of that price for RoRo shipping plus tax.
Posted by: stu - 14 July 2009 23:36:46
good grief, what colour is that? candy pink??, not my cuppa tea :lol:
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 15 July 2009 00:00:05
[quote=stu]good grief, what colour is that? candy pink??, not my cuppa tea :lol: [/quote]
Not quite sure about the colour either. Looks like Inca Red (possibly) 1956 'vert colour.
