Hi folks its looking more likely that the bug is gonna have to be sold and i was just wondering with the dreaded credit crunch etc what sort of cash i should be expecting out of my oval and what a good sort of starting price should be?
https://s394.photobucket.com/albums/pp26/1957oval/
Thanks in advance for any info.
Graeme.
Posted by: GKL 7 - 17 April 2009 20:55:07
IMHO
The car would fetch more money if the side panels had remained body colour.
Only an opinion.
Just think it would sell to a bigger market.
Is it og rhd and original coral red:?:
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 17 April 2009 22:13:01
Hi Graeme,
How's things?
I've never seen your car, but it looks like a decent one (Aussie import isn't it)?
I know you've advertised it a couple of times for sale over the last year or so for about £5500 (is that about right)? I assume you've had no offers at that price, but has anybody viewed the car?
All the best,
Rich.
Posted by: mrsherbie - 17 April 2009 23:44:57
I agree with above ( but was afraid to post 1st! :lol: )
It IS a very pretty car. I really dont see anything bad at all, looks like it was a very good solid car before the repaint. Typical oz odd old riveted repair. not a big deal, I found only very small holes when I removed the gigantic riveted on plates on my splitbus! It was the recognised proper repair method out there.
Oz had their own names for their own mixed rough versions of the german colours, so I guess your tan is kind of coral ( nice) lovely paperwork!
Rhd too. No, I dont know why it didnt sell before either :? I would certainly want every penny of the 5.5k and not a penny less! if it was mine! I think it is worth holding out for. ( actually I would have put it up for 5995 ono if it was mine! :lol: )
I would'nt worry about the credit crunch, the nice cars are still selling, a few less buyers thats all.
Is your location difficult maybe? I think possibly you just put it up for sale a little 'early' in the year, I would try again if I were you now the sun is out! maybe here and also here [url=https://www.carandclassic.co.uk]car&classic-free ads[/url]
Can you make it to Stanford Hall for exposure? get it in the Historic lineup in front of the house? then it would really stand out! :d
The only thing that jumps out to me is similar to 50karmann, I would remove the whitewalls and sell them on their own, and put some black walls on to tone the wheels down a bit. I think they look stunning like that! BUT most people wont, its an acquired taste.
Have you tried UltraVW magazine classifieds yet? they are FREE to sell a car, but Volksworld still charge £27 for an ad!
Posted by: 1956ultra - 18 April 2009 02:10:07
[quote='50 Karmann]IMHO
The car would fetch more money if the side panels had remained body colour.
Only an opinion.
Just think it would sell to a bigger market.
Is it og rhd and original coral red:?: [/quote]
Hi 50 Karmann, the car is og rhd and the colour is og Manly tan, i would have preferred it to have been left in og state as ive been told by a chap Rich put me in contact with over in Australia that it was an honest car from his memory that didn't need painting, some you win and some not lol.
G.
Posted by: 1956ultra - 18 April 2009 02:21:12
[quote=Rich Oakley]Hi Graeme,
How's things?
I've never seen your car, but it looks like a decent one (Aussie import isn't it)?
I know you've advertised it a couple of times for sale over the last year or so for about £5500 (is that about right)? I assume you've had no offers at that price, but has anybody viewed the car?
All the best,
Rich.[/quote]
Hi Rich,
Things are good at the moment, how are you? it is an Aussie import and the chap (John) you put me in contact with was very informative, its been advertised a good few times from between 5.5k to 3.5k and to date 1 person has viewed but didn't like the colour, i did recieve some offers from a few people at around the 4k mark but thats when i had it at 5.5k, its a confusing market to me now, im honestly just looking to get out of the scene for a break for a while. I may in the near future go for my bike test and focus myself on something with 2 wheels for a change :?
Regards
Graeme.
Posted by: 1956ultra - 18 April 2009 02:45:00
[quote=mrsherbie]I agree with above ( but was afraid to post 1st! :lol: )
It IS a very pretty car. I really dont see anything bad at all, looks like it was a very good solid car before the repaint. Typical oz odd old riveted repair. not a big deal, I found only very small holes when I removed the gigantic riveted on plates on my splitbus! It was the recognised proper repair method out there.
Oz had their own names for their own mixed rough versions of the german colours, so I guess your tan is kind of coral ( nice) lovely paperwork!
Rhd too. No, I dont know why it didnt sell before either :? I would certainly want every penny of the 5.5k and not a penny less! if it was mine! I think it is worth holding out for. ( actually I would have put it up for 5995 ono if it was mine! :lol: )
I would'nt worry about the credit crunch, the nice cars are still selling, a few less buyers thats all.
Is your location difficult maybe? I think possibly you just put it up for sale a little 'early' in the year, I would try again if I were you now the sun is out! maybe here and also here [url=https://www.carandclassic.co.uk]car&classic-free ads[/url]
Can you make it to Stanford Hall for exposure? get it in the Historic lineup in front of the house? then it would really stand out! :d
The only thing that jumps out to me is similar to 50karmann, I would remove the whitewalls and sell them on their own, and put some black walls on to tone the wheels down a bit. I think they look stunning like that! BUT most people wont, its an acquired taste.
Have you tried UltraVW magazine classifieds yet? they are FREE to sell a car, but Volksworld still charge £27 for an ad!
[/quote]
well mrsherbie, you have just put my mind at ease about the rivets, i asked the seller when i bought it what it was in that area and he came up with the same conclusion as you that its how things are done over in Aus,the colour is indeed an Aussie take on what i think would be Coral but called Manly tan :lol:, i have a couple of local offers on the table of 3.5k hence thats the reason i asked you folks on here just to confirm my gut feelings that their a tad on the low side, however i'm looking for a slightly quick sale :?.
I will sit down over the weekend and make a couple of new ads for here, vzi and carandclassic,
The tyres have only covered approx 600miles and have the whitewall trims on them so they could be easily taken off (thank god)
I would love to have done Stanford Hall but i just cant manage it :(
Thank you for your input and kind words
Graeme.
Posted by: 1956ultra - 18 April 2009 11:03:36
Hi, I have put her back up for sale on vzi and was going to do the same on here but i cant remember my password :lol: can 1 of you please let me know how i obtain this?
Thank you in advance
Graeme.
Posted by: mrsherbie - 18 April 2009 12:58:11
Just pm Rob pre67.
3.5k are WAY to low offers for your oval!
I would still take not a penny under 5k even if you are keen to sell it. But I dont think you will have any problems trying now summer is here anyway :d Good Luck!
Posted by: 1956ultra - 18 April 2009 22:09:19
Thanks mrsherbie, i have offered the car up for sale at 5.2k so i guess its a waiting game again 8)
Posted by: 1956ultra - 23 April 2009 23:48:36
Sold to a fantastic couple who are gonna keep her stock :d , may i take the time to thank everyone who helped by giving me info and direction on here. :d
G.
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 24 April 2009 14:50:00
[quote=1956ultra]Sold to a fantastic couple who are gonna keep her stock :d , may i take the time to thank everyone who helped by giving me info and direction on here. :d
G.[/quote]
Glad it's gone to a good home. I still think you should have accepted my offer of £1000 Scottish Pounds and a bag of potatoes.
Posted by: 1956ultra - 24 April 2009 14:57:17
You never mentioned anything about a bag of spuds (damn) :lol:, i think the guy is gonna take the car to Stanford Hall and send me some pics which will be great to see.
Posted by: vintagebug - 24 April 2009 23:34:17
[quote]I still think you should have accepted my offer of £1000 Scottish Pounds and a bag of potatoes[/quote]
1,000 of our glorious Scottish Pounds are worth at least 5,000 of your softie southern monopoly money... :lol: :wink:
I'd be interested in the bag of potatoes though :lol:
Posted by: topolino - 29 April 2009 17:57:58
the nice couple who bought this are now trying to sell it on ebay for £7,500 , they cant have the v5 back yet.
Posted by: vintagebug - 29 April 2009 22:12:11
[quote]the nice couple who bought this are now trying to sell it on ebay for £7,500 , they cant have the v5 back yet. [/quote]
Here:-
[url=https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1957-VOLKSWAGEN-OVAL-BEETLE-RHD-12-MONTHS-MOT-TAX_W0QQitemZ270382442451QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item270382442451&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A7|39%3A1|240%3A1318]https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1957-VOLKSWAGEN-OVAL-BEETLE-RHD-12-MONTHS-MOT-TAX_W0QQitemZ270382442451QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item270382442451&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A7|39%3A1|240%3A1318[/url]
The seller's description almost brought a tear to my eye...
Posted by: 64rotbox - 29 April 2009 22:32:19
"I have been using her every day to go to work"... All five days, eh? Hardcore!
Posted by: pre67vw - 29 April 2009 22:54:52
[quote=topolino]the nice couple who bought this are now trying to sell it on ebay for £7,500 , they cant have the v5 back yet.[/quote]
Maybe the roofrack they added cost £2.5k? :x
Posted by: 1956ultra - 29 April 2009 23:05:52
I believe it cost them £2800 :o
Posted by: stu - 30 April 2009 03:13:50
[quote=1956ultra]I believe it cost them £2800 :o [/quote]
you were trying to sell this on volkszone for about 2 years for 7.5k no offers, how much did it sell for in the end then?
Posted by: pre67vw - 30 April 2009 10:11:13
[quote=stu]
you were trying to sell this on volkszone for about 2 years for 7.5k no offers, how much did it sell for in the end then?[/quote]
Even I can work that one out... :roll:
Posted by: Standard split - 30 April 2009 14:37:28
I must admit I am getting more and more p****d of by people buying these lovely old VWs and putting them up for sale just days later :evil:
These people are not even investors – they're just in a money-making scam which also soils the car's history – ie the car that's had the same loving owner for 23 years now has one or two on the document who've had it ten days :twisted:
Posted by: Standard split - 30 April 2009 14:39:23
This activity probably fuels the higher prices putting the cars out-of-reach of some genuine enthusiasts [-x
Posted by: 1956ultra - 30 April 2009 18:37:35
[quote=stu]
you were trying to sell this on volkszone for about 2 years for 7.5k no offers, how much did it sell for in the end then?[/quote]
This is news to me Stu, i would love to know why you've quoted me and typed what you have?. To set the record straight for you i advertised the car last year (4/7/of last year) having only owned her for 4 months at £6995 iirc (my better half was made redundant and the car owed me £7600), i then posted on my for sale thread more than once that offers were invited (20/09/of last year), finaly dropping the price to a minimum of £4500. I decided to lock the thread because a lot of responses had went off topic.
Look here for info:
https://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread.php?t=469337
I then started a new thread on 10/01/09 putting the car up at £4000, having sold it the next again day my partner talked me out of it and the thread was closed.
Look here for info:
https://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread.php?t=520227
Earlier this month i sought some valuation advice from pre67 members and advertised her at £5200 and on the 23rd of this month sold it for £4700 (which i am very happy with)
Look here for info:
https://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread.php?t=548161
Anyway, hows the search going for an oval ?(or should i say champaign on beer money :lol: ),How many links do you have on your thread now :wink: ? imho your either gonna have to up your budget or get off your bottom (quote) and cover some miles???? 8)
Posted by: stu - 30 April 2009 23:52:11
i remember you took offence when i told you you wouldnt get 7.5k for it & now the new owners are also trying to get 7.5k :lol:
Posted by: 1956ultra - 01 May 2009 00:05:43
[quote=stu]i remember you took offence when i told you you wouldnt get 7.5k for it & now the new owners are also trying to get 7.5k :lol: [/quote]
I have never had it up for 7.5k Stu (not that i can remember) and i certainly wouldn't have taken offence, you may be thinking of the previous owner when he had it up on car and classic?. I certainly didn't own it for the 2 years you have mentioned.
As for the new owners, they obviously can do whatever they want with it.
You haven't answered any of my questions tho? was there any depth to your post or was it another off the cuff Stu comment that i have become accustomed to :roll:
Posted by: GKL 7 - 01 May 2009 00:09:11
C'mon a thread has already been locked on this subject.Let's not make it another.
Water under the bridge and all that.
It's History.
Posted by: 69project - 01 May 2009 00:16:06
[quote='50 Karmann]C'mon a thread has already been locked on this subject.Let's not make it another.
Water under the bridge and all that.
It's History.[/quote]
ditto
Posted by: 1956ultra - 01 May 2009 00:18:31
Im just curious about his original post mate, he clearly posted facts that had no true depth (links provided),i just dont get it :? , i guess Stu your just a guy i dont get sometimes (some of your posts seem to have a little sarcasim behind them) :?: , if thats not the case then i will appologise up front, maybe tho you should read back to yourself what you've written and look how other people may view it?
What was the point you were trying to put across Stu in your last 2 posts?
Posted by: stu - 01 May 2009 20:49:11
you say you were happy with £4800, but the car owes you £7600 :shock:, you must have money to burn :shock:,
the point im trying to make is clear, ovals arent worth what people advertise them for, ive never paid more than £3000 for one, & trust me, ive owned some of the nicest examples anywhere, completely original, unrestored, matching numbers & never seen a welder.
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 01 May 2009 20:57:29
[quote=stu]you say you were happy with £4800, but the car owes you £7600 :shock:, you must have money to burn :shock:,
the point im trying to make is clear, ovals arent worth what people advertise them for, ive never paid more than £3000 for one, & trust me, ive owned some of the nicest examples anywhere, completely original, unrestored, matching numbers & never seen a welder.[/quote]
:shock:
I want to come car shopping with you! :lol:
Posted by: 64rotbox - 01 May 2009 21:11:06
When exactly did you pay less than £3000 for these 'completely original, unrestored, matching numbers & never seen a welder' Ovals, then? I'm hoping a time machine might show up any minute now...
Posted by: Caledfryn - 01 May 2009 22:32:49
We nw need one of those 'This thread is useless without pics' smilies.
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 01 May 2009 22:37:00
[quote=Caledfryn]We nw need one of those 'This thread is useless without pics' smilies.[/quote]
[img]https://www.beatking.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/this_thread_is_useless_without_pics.gif[/img]
Posted by: 1956ultra - 01 May 2009 22:59:55
[quote=stu]you say you were happy with £4800, but the car owes you £7600 :shock:, you must have money to burn :shock:,
Another assumption? :lol:
the point im trying to make is clear, ovals arent worth what people advertise them for, ive never paid more than £3000 for one, & trust me, ive owned some of the nicest examples anywhere, completely original, unrestored, matching numbers & never seen a welder.[/quote]
Not got money to burn at all, i have never bought an old dub for profit, the car owes me nothing, i enjoyed every minute of having it, as for never paying more than 3k for 1, that must be the reason your sitting with hee haw in your garage right now eh? :lol:
Posted by: stu - 03 May 2009 17:35:46
[quote=64rotbox]When exactly did you pay less than £3000 for these 'completely original, unrestored, matching numbers & never seen a welder' Ovals, then? I'm hoping a time machine might show up any minute now...[/quote]
it pays to know the right people in sweden lol, why do you find this so amazing? some of the best cars ive ever owned came from sweden & their alot cheaper too.
Posted by: stu - 03 May 2009 17:40:59
[quote=1956ultra]
Not got money to burn at all, i have never bought an old dub for profit, the car owes me nothing, i enjoyed every minute of having it, as for never paying more than 3k for 1, that must be the reason your sitting with hee haw in your garage right now eh? :lol: [/quote]
it does, it owes you £2800 lol, you need to invest in a calculator mate lol, its lucky you managed to pass the oval on to someone who nos just as little about ovals as you other wise you would of lost even more money.
Posted by: 69project - 03 May 2009 17:48:15
another thread about this nice oval that is only going one way...
saw it in the cars for sale area at stanford hall today,it is very nice...
price was open to offers,lol! :wink:
Posted by: 1956ultra - 03 May 2009 17:59:31
[quote=stu]
it does, it owes you £2800 lol, you need to invest in a calculator mate lol, its lucky you managed to pass the oval on to someone who nos just as little about ovals as you other wise you would of lost even more money.[/quote]
Did you read any of what i said at all, it owes me nothing, i never buy to get my money back with my hobby :roll: ? Did i hit a raw nerve stating that you have nothing in your garage? where are all your swedish contacts to help you in your search then? you seem to be becoming a little angry in your post :lol:, i got what i got because i didn't sell to a trader and im very happy. now if you dont mind i would like you to take your assumptions elsewhere.
Take a pop over to your thread about looking for an Oval and you will soon see that you're making a bit of an ass of yourself with some of the nonsense you've posted here.
To name a few:
Your going crazy to find an oval. Try your Swedish contacts?
Seems to be a struggle to find good cars at any time of year (with a 3k budget)or was that 5k? :lol:
HOW MANY LINKS TO CARS?????
Wrong colour, too far away, (fair enough)
And the 54 for 2k, did you honestly think it was gonna be of solid quality, c'mon for god sake :oops:
And on a final note, HOW MANY LINKS TO CARS?????
I cant help thinking that you're more than happy to sit back and let the good folks of pre67 do the searching for you? Hopefuly they will find you something within your budget and within walking distance for you real soon :lol: :lol:
I wonder what the reason was that you were banned from vzi??? :lol: :lol: :lol:
