Posted by: southerndeluxe - 12 September 2009 10:50:48
well hello to all, well im a newbe to your site and i would like to show you my car and it rebirth!!!
it all started back in may of last year, i had my eye on a 60 rhd rag top for some 10yrs trying to buy it but to no avail.
then last year on my birthday may the 3rd i went along to see my friend andy, some of you might know of him he lived in the woods at gunhill east sussex??? know as vw auto revival?? well to cut a long story short!! he finaly sold it to me on my b/day i paid the grand sum of £1000 pound which i thought was a good price???? what does everyone else think??.
the car stayed in his yard till november 7th then i had the sad news andy was very ill so i aranged to collect the car and see how he was, sadley andy passed away on the 11th r.i.p andy. so now i have made it my goal to rebuild my car in andy memories.
well thats enough of the dit, right here we go (sorry to the purst on here) the car started its life as a rhd rag top then some were in its life (before me) it inherited a steel split rear section i was going to remove it but it's been done so well i have decided to leave it there.
it was origanly turkis with the interior matching ie: green steering wheel hand brake lever and grab handle, ive been told (how correct) im not sure but these were a ltd run of cars???.
the car is now home and i have stripped it down to a bare shell as it need so much work all the bottom 6" front and rear valences bonnet engine lid etc. i have brought nos doors bonnet and deck lid so on with the resto, i built myself this frame/rotissorie to work on the car.
i am building a couple more that i will be selling if anyone is intrested???????.
thats enough tping there will be plenty more to follow.,
[IMG]https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/58SPLITPANEL/myragtop073.jpg[/IMG]
this is how i found my rag
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[IMG]https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/58SPLITPANEL/myragtop078.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/58SPLITPANEL/ragatwork001.jpg[/IMG]
on her way home to start resto as you can see she has the wrong engine lid cover and reg.
then got her stripped to this
[IMG]https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/58SPLITPANEL/003.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/58SPLITPANEL/006.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/58SPLITPANEL/myragresto005-3.jpg[/IMG]
now sitting on my spit!!!
[IMG]https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/58SPLITPANEL/myragresto004-5.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/58SPLITPANEL/myragresto005-4.jpg[/IMG]
thank you for looking please feel free to let me know what you think any tips or advice greatfully recived
Posted by: 55Kab - 12 September 2009 17:30:01
Welcome to pre67. Great little project you got there. However I would have to say that you should remove the split rear window section as a RHD small window ragtop bug is a pretty rare thing these days and unless you're not keeping it stock it just won't look right.
Considering the amount of work you've done and by the looks of it are going to do it should be relatively easy to remove! :wink:
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 12 September 2009 19:12:32
well i have toyed with the idea, but it's trying to find the missing window section.....
are these early rhd rag tops rare??? not sure on the numbers???
Posted by: pre67vw - 12 September 2009 21:07:06
Welcome to the forum...
I'd leave the split window in, it's not original obviously - but it's now part of the cars history (and looks kinda kool). :beer:
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 12 September 2009 21:23:53
well thank you i feel welcomed and i thinkit does give my car the one off factor,
its like a split personality???
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 12 September 2009 22:45:58
Welcome to pre67vw!
I only live a few miles away from you and drove past your car a few times when it was parked on the main road at Cooksbridge. The first time I saw it, I thought it was a genuine Split so had to stop and take a closer look!
My personal opinion is that the large rear window should be re-instated if you can get your hands on one.
Good luck with the project.
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 12 September 2009 23:02:52
thats the one rich, im still not decided on the window?? if your ever passing more than welcome to popin and have a look and a chat the kettle is allways on regards rick
Posted by: Sunroof53 - 12 September 2009 23:57:19
You could sell that split window section to recoup your cost if you choose to go back to stock, maybe even some profit.I personally think it would make some nice wall art8) . Keep up the good work theres plenty of support on here:d
Posted by: JD - 13 September 2009 01:07:12
Pleas don´t weld on the entire lower rear quarter panel repair section! Cut it down and use as little as possible and save as much of that good quality original VW steel as you can.
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 13 September 2009 10:01:24
thanks for all you replys i will be thinking hard over the next few weeks about the rear screen,
as for cutting the rear 1/4 thats as far as its being cut the german metal is far stronger than the repair panels, i will be posting all my works on the forum (hope i don't boar you all) as for the advice the more the merry i belive you can't ever have enough advise???
now the biggest choice i want to paint the (not personaly) i have two choice's in colours i prefer coral red L351 just love this colour or put it back to turkis???? please help give me your thought's.
regards rick:beer:
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 13 September 2009 12:31:03
I reckon back to Turkis. I think it would be great to see such an unusual car returned back to how it left the factory.
You actually have a '61 model there (ie: manufactured after July 1960). The '61 Turkis Beetles were unique as they had a lot of 'one year only' colour-coded parts (steering wheel, gear stick, handbrake, rubber mats, passenger grab straps, dashboard grab handle, rear kick-boards, sunroof cover, running board covers and one-year-only 6-wire indicator stalk).
Posted by: dry&heavy - 13 September 2009 12:44:26
i would say keep it turkis also but saying this coral red is nice
as i just got my australian 59 coral red back yesterday, so back to this as my daily ride now
so i may sell that 52 rich as im after a 51 now
[img]https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3420/3915396076_d67f870fba.jpg[/img]
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 13 September 2009 12:50:39
well i agree with you again rich i have the gear stick handbrake lever and stering wheel, grab handle etc in a green sort of colour i will take a pic see what you think??
are they rare then these cars?????????? was it a factory option or a ltd edition ?? does anyone know......
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 13 September 2009 12:58:38
[quote=southerndeluxe]well i agree with you again rich i have the gear stick handbrake lever and stering wheel, grab handle etc in a green sort of colour i will take a pic see what you think??
are they rare then these cars?????????? was it a factory option or a ltd edition ?? does anyone know......[/quote]
Look forward to the pics.
All Turkis '61s came with these coloured parts. There are not many original RHD Turkis '61s left now.
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 13 September 2009 12:59:20
[img]https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3420/3915396076_d67f870fba.jpg[/img]
Looking good!
I've dropped you an email :wink:
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 13 September 2009 13:05:08
i wonder if there is anyway of finding out just how many original rhd turkis rags there were, and how many there are still on the road.
as i say rich if you are ever passing you are more than welcome to pop in
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 13 September 2009 13:20:37
[quote=southerndeluxe]i wonder if there is anyway of finding out just how many original rhd turkis rags there were, and how many there are still on the road.
as i say rich if you are ever passing you are more than welcome to pop in [/quote]
Off the top of my head, I cannot think of one RHD '61 Turkis ragtop and there will be no records surviving to show how many were built/imported.
Likewise, if you're ever passing thru B.Hill, you're more than welcome to pop in.
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 13 September 2009 13:26:14
well you now know of one lol mine......... its going togo back to factory spec me thinks???
do you go to the heritage meet on the last thursday of the month??? im going to the next one only found out about it couple of weeks ago?? going to try and sort my t4 out so i have a ride to go in don't think the astra CUTS it he he
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 13 September 2009 13:45:30
[quote=southerndeluxe]well you now know of one lol mine......... its going togo back to factory spec me thinks???
do you go to the heritage meet on the last thursday of the month??? im going to the next one only found out about it couple of weeks ago?? going to try and sort my t4 out so i have a ride to go in don't think the astra CUTS it he he [/quote]
Yep, I'll be there- it's about 2 mins drive from my house.
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 13 September 2009 13:48:57
ok for some hay what dateand time is the next one????
so could i be the only rhd 60/61 turkis goldie rag top in the uk/maybe the world that would be so cool and make my bug unique worth a lot of pennys???????????????????????? i can only dream
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 13 September 2009 13:51:52
have i stumbbled acrossed a hens tooth?????????????????????
Posted by: JD - 13 September 2009 19:14:51
The Turkis coloured cars have some unusal stuff on them, like coloured running boards and wing beading IIRC. They look quite unusual when restored in this colour.
Hens tooth? Well, it´s a RHD sunroof car, but if you want to start splitting hairs about colour and so on then I should say its pretty unusual. Doesn´t mean its worth a fortune though. 1302s are rare!
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 13 September 2009 19:26:21
well its never going to be for sale ever, so the money side is not a issue this car was a very good friend of mine who sadley passed away so thats one reason i will not sell it, the other is it's a pre-67 rhd rag top what some dreams are made of :p :lol: :d
Posted by: 55Kab - 13 September 2009 19:26:42
[quote=southerndeluxe]so could i be the only rhd 60/61 turkis goldie rag top in the uk/maybe the world that would be so cool and make my bug unique worth a lot of pennys?[/quote]
Well it could well be and I can assure you if it is, it will be worth a lot more penny's restored with it's original sized rear window than with a Frankenstein Split implant! :lol:
Posted by: dry&heavy - 13 September 2009 22:03:35
[quote=JD]1302s are rare![/quote]
1302s rare hehe i gave one away for free the other month :p :p
Posted by: JD - 14 September 2009 09:26:40
[quote=dry&heavy]
1302s rare hehe i gave one away for free the other month :p :p [/quote]
Thats exactly what I meant - rare doesn´t necessarily equal valuable.
(I have heard several times that 1302s are now rarer than split Beetles)
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 14 September 2009 09:48:42
well thanks to all who have written in i love my bug wether its rare or not it'sa early 60's bug rhd and a rag top to boot plus it could be one of only a hand full or les bugs.
i will keep you all in touch with my turkis gem on her great build up:beer: :o :beer: :d
Posted by: JD - 14 September 2009 11:06:09
From theSamba - some inspiration. Notice the coloured running boards, wing beading and rag top and green steering wheel, hand brake and shifter. All really distinctive.
[img]https://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/486581.jpg[/img]
[img]https://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/485298.jpg[/img]
[img]https://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/485297.jpg[/img]
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 14 September 2009 11:46:24
wow thanks thats what i want mine to be like same colour interior that i have on mine.
many thanks for posting them for me, welding the lhs door post/a post and heater channel in today wish me luck
Posted by: 55Kab - 14 September 2009 13:42:20
Here's a RHD non sunroof car. Unfortunately and unbelievably this car was broken up earlier this year in order that the body could be made into a race car :shock: . It had little milage on it therefore was pretty solid!
[ATTACH]3527[/Attach] [ATTACH]3528[/Attach] [ATTACH]3529[/Attach] [ATTACH]3530[/Attach] [ATTACH]3531[/Attach] [ATTACH]3532[/Attach] [ATTACH]3533[/Attach]
Posted by: 64rotbox - 14 September 2009 13:53:39
I'd rather not have known that... :shock: FFS.
Posted by: JD - 14 September 2009 14:15:24
Damn! Hope someone grabbed all the green mats and other Turkis specific parts. Green grab handle too!
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 14 September 2009 14:26:47
[quote=55Kab]Here's a RHD non sunroof car. Unfortunately and unbelievably this car was broken up earlier this year in order that the body could be made into a race car :shock: . It had little milage on it therefore was pretty solid!
[/quote]
58,000 miles from new to be precise and in VERY original condition. The shell is going to be used for a lightweight race car project. All the bits have been sold off now.
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 14 September 2009 19:24:17
well what a shame its been taken apart???? yep ive got all those parts in side mine except the rubber mats,
so i am deffo on the look out for green rubber floor mats any idea's ive been asking around about rhd rag top's in turkis and no one no's of any is this a good thing or a bad thing lol :beer: :beer:
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 14 September 2009 21:01:07
:lol: " LOOKING FOR GREEN RUBBER MATS" IF ANYONE CAN HELP :lol: :beer: :beer:
Posted by: 59 Ragtop - 14 September 2009 22:03:21
Sadly not. Good luck with the project,keep us posted with your progress.
Tom
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 14 September 2009 22:32:23
CHEERS tom will be posting all my work as i build my bug one thing for sure it will be turkis with full colour coding interior :wink:
Posted by: JD - 14 September 2009 23:36:48
More info from thesamba - factory painted correct wheel colours.
Sea Green and light Turkis
[img]https://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/171893.jpg[/img]
Posted by: 55Kab - 14 September 2009 23:37:53
[quote=southerndeluxe]CHEERS tom will be posting all my work as i build my bug one thing for sure it will be turkis with full colour coding interior and no split rear window :wink: [/quote]
Fixed that last post for you! :wink:
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 15 September 2009 09:12:10
well ive got six month's hard work ahead of me if i want to be at sandown park for the volksworld show in march wish me luck.......... one thing is for sure i will have to either build my workshop or find one to rent as the weather and time of year are aginst me!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 16 September 2009 10:01:38
am looking for a cheap workshop/barn type building to put the bug in so i can work as the elements are against me with in 15mls from lewes area any ideas please let me know cheers rick:beer:
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 16 September 2009 11:15:30
Rick,
I have been looking for years to find one at a reasonable price, but everywhere seems to be 'business rate' type workshops. If you find anywhere, I may well be interested to share the space/cost. There were some units in Plumpton that I looked at a while ago, but they were tiny and expensive. We need to find a friendly farmer who has a spare barn!
Rich.
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 16 September 2009 11:34:43
there is one in plumpton at the mo? 3000sqft £116pw £58 each ive just spoke to the bloke he don't mind motor works there are some that as soon as you say cars they go all funny???...........
Posted by: VW Stan - 16 September 2009 11:40:21
[quote=southerndeluxe]there is one in plumpton at the mo? 3000sqft £116pw £58 each ive just spoke to the bloke he don't mind motor works there are some that as soon as you say cars they go all funny???...........[/quote]
For £500 a month you could buy a house with a double garage, and rent the house out! :wink:
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 16 September 2009 11:49:34
very true but its also harder to get a mortgage these days than a workshop, was building a 26ft x 20ft workshop in my back garden but due to lack of work and no extra funds its on hold shame cos it would have been ideal :cry: :cry: :cry:
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 16 September 2009 11:52:33
also down here in lewes you couldn't even afford to buy the doubble garage with a £500 pound mortgage???
to dear down here but i do know where you are coming from.............
Posted by: VW Stan - 16 September 2009 12:25:25
[quote=southerndeluxe]also down here in lewes you couldn't even afford to buy the doubble garage with a £500 pound mortgage???
to dear down here but i do know where you are coming from.............[/quote]
It is difficult to find cheap workshops/garages even round here (Milton Keynes).
10yrs ago, I used to share a small workshop on a farm. An old stable with space for two cars, power and light for £120 a month which was okay.
Then I moved to a house with a double garage and stopped renting. I've grown the fleet so now I have two cars stored on the same farm again @ £60 a month each!
:d
Posted by: Mike Peckham - 16 September 2009 13:06:43
My brother lives on Allington Lane (off the PLumpton / Ditchling road) about half way between Burgess Hill and Lewes. His neighbour lets out workshops on his farm and there always seems to be units for let - don't know the cost but it might be worth trying there.
The Guys name is Mr Botting and the farm is Allington farm - I'll try and get the phone number for you.
Mike
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 16 September 2009 20:13:54
thanks mike that would be good im only round the corner......
working in the dry everyday???
Posted by: Mike Peckham - 16 September 2009 20:48:29
I checked with my brother and he is currently advertising units to let but I don't know what sort, it has to be worth checking though. His contact details are;
P M Botting.
Allington Farm
Allington Lane Offham,
Lewes,
East Sussex
BN7 3QL.
p: 01273473310.
(I can publish these details here without risk of infringing his privacy, because they are available elsewhere on the net...:wink: )
Mike
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 16 September 2009 20:55:11
thanks mike im going to call him first thing i will let you know how i get on???????????? i hope it goes well
:beer: :beer: :beer: :d :d
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 17 September 2009 10:20:27
well no room at the inn as they say??? still looking for a good size unit ......
is anyone going to the heritage meet tonight ???? see ya there if you are:beer: :beer: :beer:
Posted by: Mike Peckham - 17 September 2009 10:47:16
Sorry it didn't work out at the Bottings - good luck in your search.
I shall be at Heretics tonight - should be easily identified as mine is usually the only Black Oval there :wink:
Mike
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 17 September 2009 10:57:16
well i will be going up in my mates t4 white black bra 18's looks more like a 4x4 lol he's getting it lowered this weekend all my rides are of the road...........
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 17 September 2009 17:00:09
I'll be at Heritage tonight, probably in the Polo but may be in the '47.
I'm currenly renting storage space for a few of my cars, but I can't work on them there. I've just also found out that I'll be spending most of my time working in Sweden rather than the UK, so an 'expensive' workshop space is probably not an option for me at the moment as I'll never be able to use it!
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 17 September 2009 17:09:55
COME IN THE 47!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SEE YOU THERE TONIGHT
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 17 September 2009 18:13:26
[quote=southerndeluxe]COME IN THE 47!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SEE YOU THERE TONIGHT [/quote]
Looks like it will have to be the Polo. I've got some oily bits to drop off at Heritage. I love my Polo.
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 17 September 2009 18:49:45
[quote=Mike Peckham]
I shall be at Heretics tonight - should be easily identified as mine is usually the only Black Oval there :wink:
Mike [/quote]
There may be a Black ragtop Oval there tonight too :wink:
Posted by: Mike Peckham - 17 September 2009 19:06:44
[quote=Rich Oakley]
There may be a Black ragtop Oval there tonight too :wink: [/quote]
Marvellous!
See you there...
Posted by: GKL 7 - 17 September 2009 21:37:31
[quote=Rich Oakley] I'll be spending most of my time working in Sweden rather than the UK[/quote]
Hi Rich,What great fun you'll have out there hunting in your spare time:d
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 17 September 2009 22:31:36
just comeback from heritage going to swap the rear window so im onthelook out for a rear screen and rear grill section for a 60>64 if any one has one..
fell in love with mikes oval and the oval rag that were there
Posted by: JD - 17 September 2009 23:38:42
[quote=southerndeluxe]just comeback from heritage going to swap the rear window so im onthelook out for a rear screen and rear grill section for a 60>64 if any one has one..
fell in love with mikes oval and the oval rag that were there [/quote]
You the man!:beer: :d
You´ll get a few quid for the split section too. It all helps!
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 18 September 2009 09:21:25
cheers but i think it will look good hanging on my wall till i decide to either sell it or put it in another beetle????? never say never pick my nos doors up sunday hell yer........
Posted by: mrsherbie - 18 September 2009 10:06:22
We have a nos 'update' rear window section somewhere, but I would have to ask him indoors as I think its for hoarding not selling, kind of too good to actually use :lol: A section cut from a scrap car will certainly be far cheaper, might have one I will find out.
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 18 September 2009 10:18:29
thank you would be good if you have as i realy want to put turkis back to og speck the nos would be lovely but a good used will do hope to hear from you soon thank you regards rick
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 18 September 2009 11:10:13
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 18 September 2009 11:42:13
well i hope you do find some time to find some goodies out there and of couse keep us all informed of them lol i would like either a split rag or a oval vert next (lets get the turkis out the way first) :lol: :lol: :beer:
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 31 December 2009 16:16:56
well hi everyone and may i start by wishing you all a very happy new year lets hope 2010 is your year,
well the bug has a new place to be worked on ive got myself a nice dry warm workshop so the project can realy get going now, will keep you all posted
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 24 January 2010 19:25:30
well its a new year and ive decided its time to get this bug done ive managed to locate a complete rear section and floor pans thanks bill will be up this weekend coming to collect. my plan is to crack on with the floor pan need to locate a good nepolion hat section as both ends of mine have rotted out???? out come mr shot blast all down to bare metal best way pics to follow. my beam is in very good condition im going to remove steering box then attack with wire wheel on me grinder strip to bare metal and paint the beam that is give the steering box a good going over and paint and refit.
Posted by: JD - 25 January 2010 09:31:23
Good decision. I love Turkis cars and ragtops.
Posted by: 55Kab - 26 February 2010 14:22:28
[quote=Rich Oakley]
58,000 miles from new to be precise and in VERY original condition. The shell is going to be used for a lightweight race car project. All the bits have been sold off now.[/quote]
The gearshifter is on ebay Rick. Maybe you need that Turkis coloured boot?
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1960-VW-BEETLE-GEARSTICK-AND-IVORY-KNOB-TURQOUISE-BLUE_W0QQitemZ220562254606QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item335a88eb0e
Anyway, made any progress?
Posted by: Benjamin - 07 June 2010 17:38:32
What a great project.
So what is the story with the Turkis 61's? Anyone know any more?
Did they all come with painted interior etc? What date did this continue until?
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 07 June 2010 21:54:07
[quote=Benjamin]What a great project.
So what is the story with the Turkis 61's? Anyone know any more?
Did they all come with painted interior etc? What date did this continue until?
[/quote]
On the Turkis cars, the odd interior colours (floormats, rubber boots, kick panels, grab handles) etc. were only used from 1st August 1960 until 28th Feb 1961!
Posted by: Benjamin - 07 June 2010 22:15:18
Thanks, Rich!
Was it just the Turkis models that had these one off colour combinations?
Interested in the history behind these changes.
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 07 June 2010 22:23:12
[quote=Benjamin]Thanks, Rich!
Was it just the Turkis models that had these one off colour combinations?
Interested in the history behind these changes.
[/quote]
Black, Ruby Red and Gulf Blue 61s had the 'normal' colour parts. Turkis and Pastel Blue had these 'one year only' parts for 7 months until 28/2/61. Beryl Green and Pearl White '61s had the 'one year only' parts for the entire duration of the '61 model year (Aug '60 to Jul '61). Normality was resumed in August '61 for the '62 model year on all cars except Beryl Green which still had it's odd colour parts for the '62/'63 model years.
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 16 September 2010 11:50:54
hi all sorry for the long delay in up dates there has been a lot of bad things happening in my life so the bug has not had any more done to it since april??? it will be moving on to it new home next week, i hope well apart from finding out the misses had cheated on me now my ex misses and my health taking a 2nd turn for the worse ie my lung tumors came back with avengonce so now im all nuclered up lets hope ive got it this time so i now have some time whilest im signed of to get on with the bug i want to go to the volksworld show with it next year?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lets see if money and health can let me hope everyone is all well. GOOD TO BE BACK
Posted by: JD - 16 September 2010 12:14:13
Blimey! I´m sure things will take a turn for the better now though. Keep us posted.:beer:
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 16 September 2010 15:40:06
i do hope so they recon were i got so low and stressed from the ex it slowed me body down and the big c came back with avengance but good old radiation bless it well im a fighter and will be back to full power v soon and thebug is going to be done
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 23 September 2010 11:02:07
well got the transporter all booked the bug will have a new home on tuesday ready for me to start the work :roll: :d i can't wait??? i started fiddling with some bits last night started with the steering wheel wich was/is badly cracked so im going to restore it back to its full life can anyone tell mewhat are they made off ie the covering on the wheel.
i started to sand the wheel doen ready to repair???? pics will follow.
Posted by: JD - 23 September 2010 13:55:57
[quote=Rich Oakley]Black, Ruby Red and Gulf Blue 61s had the 'normal' colour parts. Turkis and Pastel Blue had these 'one year only' parts for 7 months until 28/2/61. Beryl Green and Pearl White '61s had the 'one year only' parts for the entire duration of the '61 model year (Aug '60 to Jul '61). Normality was resumed in August '61 for the '62 model year on all cars except Beryl Green which still had it's odd colour parts for the '62/'63 model years.[/quote]
Thanks for that Rich. That´s one of those "always wanted to know that" things.
Pastel blue cars had darker blue parts - what was on the white cars as a contrasting colour? Was it a sort of brick red?
The other thing I wondered was if there were any cabrios with these coloured parts? Or were Karmann not playing the game? I had the remains of a Beryl green cabrio that seemed to have green bits on it, but it was too un-original to be sure if they came on the car.
Glad to hear that things are progressing Southerndeluxe. Look forwards to seeing pics.
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 23 September 2010 18:18:12
cheers jd does anyone know what material its made from i know mr o will know lol:wink: :beer:
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 24 September 2010 09:17:40
[quote=JD]Thanks for that Rich. That´s one of those "always wanted to know that" things.
Pastel blue cars had darker blue parts - what was on the white cars as a contrasting colour? Was it a sort of brick red?
The other thing I wondered was if there were any cabrios with these coloured parts? Or were Karmann not playing the game? I had the remains of a Beryl green cabrio that seemed to have green bits on it, but it was too un-original to be sure if they came on the car.
Glad to hear that things are progressing Southerndeluxe. Look forwards to seeing pics.[/quote]
The Pearl White cars had L023 Sand Stone steering wheel, L026 Honey Brown gearlever boot and L018 Sand Beige running board covers. The rear kick boards and rubber mats were also Honey Brown.
All the cabrios followed the same colour schemes as the Sedans.
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 24 September 2010 09:19:15
[quote=southerndeluxe]cheers jd does anyone know what material its made from i know mr o will know lol:wink: :beer: [/quote]
I think people just repair them with regular body filler if they're not too badly damaged and cracked.
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 24 September 2010 10:14:51
thatnks for that rich i was thinking of using either fibaglass filler or a little resin and fibers then a very slight skim of topping filler followed but high build primer then three coats of turkis followed by sum laquer mmm nice new wheel :lol: :twisted: :lol:
Posted by: JD - 24 September 2010 10:40:26
[quote=Rich Oakley]I think people just repair them with regular body filler if they're not too badly damaged and cracked.[/quote]
I used a two part resin/chemical metal type stuff on a Lowlight Ghia wheel that I was repairing, but that was cracked right down to the metal, with big lumps missing. I´d maybe skim it with filler afterwards, as that´s not so hard to sand down.
Your wheel shouldn´t be Turkis should it? It needs to be a darker green.
Posted by: JD - 24 September 2010 10:42:02
[quote=Rich Oakley]
All the cabrios followed the same colour schemes as the Sedans.[/quote]
So there were Turkis Cabrios with the dark green parts?
Thats bad.
Means I´ll have to buy one.:lol:
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 24 September 2010 13:10:38
[quote=JD]So there were Turkis Cabrios with the dark green parts?
Thats bad.
Means I´ll have to buy one.:lol: [/quote]
[img]https://www.waynemacvw.com/_/rsrc/1234974375464/cars/car02/DSC_0021.JPG[/img]
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 24 September 2010 13:13:02
[quote=JD]I used a two part resin/chemical metal type stuff on a Lowlight Ghia wheel that I was repairing, but that was cracked right down to the metal, with big lumps missing. I´d maybe skim it with filler afterwards, as that´s not so hard to sand down.
Your wheel shouldn´t be Turkis should it? It needs to be a darker green.[/quote]
Steering wheel/indicator switch on a Turkis '61 should be L021 Hydrate Green
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 24 September 2010 13:36:16
Steering wheel, indicator arm, handbrake, gearstick. Pic for reference...
[img]https://bradsprojects.weebly.com/uploads/3/2/9/5/329512/9054487_orig.jpg[/img]
Posted by: JD - 24 September 2010 14:20:29
[quote=Rich Oakley][img]https://www.waynemacvw.com/_/rsrc/1234974375464/cars/car02/DSC_0021.JPG[/img][/quote]
Oh damn - just look at that - thats the one. Lovely.
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 24 September 2010 23:15:58
[quote=JD]Oh damn - just look at that - thats the one. Lovely.[/quote]
It's for sale at the moment.
Posted by: WayneMcCarthy - 24 September 2010 23:33:28
[quote=Rich Oakley]It's for sale at the moment.[/quote]
I hope to have a deal back for this Rich !
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 24 September 2010 23:43:54
[quote=WayneMcCarthy]I hope to have a deal back for this Rich ![/quote]
Nice one Wayne! I know you mentioned it last week. Welcome back to pre67 :wink: :lol:
Posted by: JD - 25 September 2010 01:21:42
[quote=WayneMcCarthy]I hope to have a deal back for this Rich ![/quote]
I guess you don´t need a slightly patinated 58 Kabrio?:lol:
Posted by: 55Kab - 25 September 2010 09:05:14
[quote=JD]So there were Turkis Cabrios with the dark green parts?
Thats bad.
Means I´ll have to buy one.:lol: [/quote]
Go for it James :wink:
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290476036987&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Posted by: JD - 25 September 2010 21:30:45
[quote=55Kab]Go for it James :wink:
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290476036987&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
[/quote]
10,600? Not surprised it didn´t sell! Even 13.5 is stealing it.
Anyway - no green steering wheel - I´m out! (Even if I had the money):lol: :lol:
Posted by: WayneMcCarthy - 25 September 2010 21:41:39
[quote=JD]10,600? Not surprised it didn´t sell! Even 13.5 is stealing it.
Anyway - no green steering wheel - I´m out! (Even if I had the money):lol: :lol: [/quote]
It's Coming Back to Ireland !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Have Just Today had a Deal Back for it , It's one of those Car's (I SHOULDN'T have Sold)
Posted by: JD - 25 September 2010 22:08:30
[quote=WayneMcCarthy]It's Coming Back to Ireland !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Have Just Today had a Deal Back for it , It's one of those Car's (I SHOULDN'T have Sold)
[/quote]
Lucky fella!
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 27 September 2010 22:44:07
can anyone tell me the stud diamiter for my 60?? 112 or diffrent cheers rick
Posted by: JD - 27 September 2010 22:52:45
[quote=southerndeluxe]can anyone tell me the stud diamiter for my 60?? 112 or diffrent cheers rick
[/quote]
The bolt pattern? 5 studs on a 205mm circle.
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 16 February 2011 11:51:58
well got new home new work shop at home pit hoist the lot see pics, well im cracking on with her now ive made a pac to have it done.
[IMG]https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/58SPLITPANEL/183055_1888236968605_1321872246_32176552_1474499_n.jpg[/IMG]
[img]https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/58SPLITPANEL/myworkshop.jpg[/img]
[img]https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/58SPLITPANEL/sartingonceagain.jpg[/img]
Posted by: 55Kab - 16 February 2011 15:08:46
Looks good, must be nice to be out of the garden! :wink:
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 16 February 2011 19:37:11
thanks yer it nice warm and dry best of all work when i want come rain and shine day or night
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 09 March 2011 12:45:15
just when it's safe to go in the workshop my young lady thought it would be a good idea to buy this??????? for the kids to take them to the beach and away for the weekends sorry raggy must obay lol so im now in to this got to finish this before the bug i think i will be doing a bit of both lol
[IMG]https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/58SPLITPANEL/21211028.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/58SPLITPANEL/21211035.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/58SPLITPANEL/tintop010.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/58SPLITPANEL/tintop018.jpg[/IMG]
boy im a lucky boy more hours in the workshop
Posted by: Rattletrap - 09 March 2011 14:20:11
'Scuse my idleness, I haven't read through the whole of this thread. Is the car's split-window a real steel one or a plastic section.:?
Looks like a repro section to me though.
Posted by: pre67vw - 09 March 2011 14:28:21
[quote=Rattletrap]'Scuse my idleness, I haven't read through the whole of this thread. Is the car's split-window a real steel one or a plastic section.:?
Looks like a repro section to me though.[/quote]
I would have thought it was easier to read the first couple of posts than to go to the trouble of writing that out. Plus take a look at the section of the forum it's in... :wink:
Posted by: Rattletrap - 09 March 2011 15:43:28
[quote=pre67vw]I would have thought it was easier to read the first couple of posts than to go to the trouble of writing that out. Plus take a look at the section of the forum it's in... :wink: [/quote]
Rob's having a pop at old [i]Rattletrap[/i]. [-x :roll:
Yes I know its under the 57-67 thread and is certainly not a real split window Beetle, and …
[quote=southerndeluxe]…it inherited a steel split rear section i was going to remove it but it's been done so well i have decided to leave it there. [/quote]
but hey, come on, look at the way its slotted into the rectangular widow aperture…. The kits were made to fit exact into the donor car rear window shape. The kits were plastic, however.
If you cut the rear window section from a wrecked split window Beetle it would not be like that…..
You'd also cut away the whole lower rear area of the big window car's roof.
Then look at this too…:smile:
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Posted by: southerndeluxe - 13 March 2011 16:37:49
it is a 60 car with a steal split section a real one
Posted by: 69project - 13 March 2011 20:01:21
if you did remove it guy on here with username of dexter is after one
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 14 March 2011 18:08:34
ive decided to keep it in make my little bug a special car plus my friend put it in he has since past away to a pleasent land
Posted by: Boris1966 - 20 March 2011 10:39:03
Hi there,
I was so excited to hear that someone has decided to restore Andy's beetle. Myself and my boyfriend knew Andy well. He did all the wealding on Boris - my 1966 Java Green and My boyfriend's 1970 Crew cab. We used to pop up to visit him and say hi to his norwegien Elkhound dogs and see how he was getting on from time to time. We were really upset when we heard he had died so good luck with your project and I really want to hear how you are getting along and if I can be of any help with the restoration.
x Leane :d
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 23 March 2011 08:37:40
thanks leane for your mail, it was very sad about andy a nice gentle man that kept himself to himself a big part of vw went with him rip andy. yer im going to restore it back to its forma glory, not sure what happened to all the other vw's that were in the yard ?????
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 17 September 2011 16:44:47
hi im looking for a 59/60 shell or someone who has cut one up im after front 1/4 and rear 1/4 complete shell would be better so i can cut what i need many thanks rick:beer: :beer: :d
Posted by: DarthMJH - 17 September 2011 19:23:44
[quote=southerndeluxe]hi im looking for a 59/60 shell or someone who has cut one up im after front 1/4 and rear 1/4 complete shell would be better so i can cut what i need many thanks rick:beer: :beer: :d [/quote]
Someone on volkszone is selling a 1960 shell [url=https://www.volkszone.co.uk/VZi/showthread.php?t=734132]https://www.volkszone.co.uk/VZi/showthread.php?t=734132[/url]
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 19 September 2011 12:39:02
thanks darth have pm him hopefuly fingers crossed .
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 04 October 2011 13:58:05
have found a solid shell and im thinking of swapping for my rotten shell but grafting the rag top section in thus putting my bug back to spec ie small window rhd rag but on a solid shell, what's the best way to grafft the rag in ie peel the roof or cut through the pilars ??
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 09 October 2011 18:35:46
was going to put my porsche 912 engine in the rag but is now thinking of selling the complete engine so anyone out there wanting a porsche 912engine i have one for sale mail me
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 05 June 2012 16:52:29
hi every one long time no bug work well im back in the workshop tomorrow, im looking for a 60 bug shell if you know of one please contact me on here or email me at [email protected] or call 07972779078 cheers rick
Posted by: JD - 06 June 2012 12:03:53
Glad you´re still going on this. Didn´t it work out with the other shell?
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 06 June 2012 14:36:20
no need a better shell so if there is a better one it will help speed up the resto loooking fwd to geting the turkis rag back on the road as she rolled of the line
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 13 June 2012 11:28:24
well hi one and all well ive been out in the workshop ive have taken the bull by the horns and decided the split section had to come out.
[IMG]https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/58SPLITPANEL/12612152.jpg[/IMG]
to this????
[IMG]https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/58SPLITPANEL/12612154.jpg[/IMG]
now got the job to clean up
[IMG]https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/58SPLITPANEL/12612155.jpg[/IMG]
so what im looking for know is the lower rear screen section and vents and hinge carrier if anyone out there knows of one or has one for sale the big build is defo on the way got the bug again
Posted by: pre67vw - 13 June 2012 12:48:36
Nice! Shouldn't be too difficult to get this section though? Did it change into the 70's or can you get a cut from a slightly later car?
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 13 June 2012 13:32:00
its a june 60 car so its a small rear screen so its got to be a early car ???
Posted by: pre67vw - 13 June 2012 13:40:25
[quote=southerndeluxe]its a june 60 car so its a small rear screen so its got to be a early car ??? [/quote]
Good point... :beer: Did the rear window change size as well as the side windows?
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 13 June 2012 13:54:48
yer up till 64 they have a small rear screen then got bigger in 65
Posted by: pre67vw - 13 June 2012 14:11:28
[quote=southerndeluxe]yer up till 64 they have a small rear screen then got bigger in 65[/quote]
So where did the extra size come from? Because aren't the vents the same size?
Posted by: southerndeluxe - 13 June 2012 14:37:37
im not sure ???
Posted by: AW - 13 June 2012 14:44:18
I think the depth and width is bigger but you may be able to modd a later bit to fit just need to chcek the radius on the lower corners.
Andy W
