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Posted by: pre67vw - 06 August 2010 12:17:50
The more I look around the more crazy prices I see, long gone are the days of picking up a rusty Beetle for £50 - now the same thing would cost you upwards of £1500. Rusty type 2's seem to start at £5k if they're really bad, or upwards of £10k if the owner is trying it on. Restored and roadworthy cars seem to go for roughly 3 times these prices, with top restorations and rare cars just writing their own price tags. What's you're opinion of all this? Is it good for the hobby? or is it slowly killing it?

Posted by: pre67vw - 06 August 2010 12:17:50

The more I look around the more crazy prices I see, long gone are the days of picking up a rusty Beetle for £50 - now the same thing would cost you upwards of £1500. Rusty type 2's seem to start at £5k if they're really bad, or upwards of £10k if the owner is trying it on. Restored and roadworthy cars seem to go for roughly 3 times these prices, with top restorations and rare cars just writing their own price tags. What's you're opinion of all this? Is it good for the hobby? or is it slowly killing it?

Posted by: lifeintheslowlane - 06 August 2010 13:35:31
I think there will always be an affordable entry level into the hobby. OK days of the £50 Beetle are long gone but it's all relative. There are kids out there driving around in WRXs paying thousands a year for third party insurance. If it's cool enough to drive a Beetle, kids will pay the price.

Posted by: JD - 06 August 2010 13:36:38
Bugattis are "quite expensive" and some folks still collect them, so it won´t kill the hobby. I think there are still plenty of cheap beetles around, just not so many of them are pre 67.

Posted by: pre67vw - 06 August 2010 14:03:44
[quote=JD]Bugattis are "quite expensive" and some folks still collect them, so it won´t kill the hobby. I think there are still plenty of cheap beetles around, just not so many of them are pre 67.[/quote] Bugattis were never cheap 'peoples cars' though, I'm not aware of Bugatti Jam. I think there are some genuine prices still around, but you have to look for them - most people think because it's an old VW it must be worth loads...

Posted by: pre67vw - 06 August 2010 14:03:44

[quote=JD]Bugattis are "quite expensive" and some folks still collect them, so it won´t kill the hobby. I think there are still plenty of cheap beetles around, just not so many of them are pre 67.[/quote] Bugattis were never cheap 'peoples cars' though, I'm not aware of Bugatti Jam. I think there are some genuine prices still around, but you have to look for them - most people think because it's an old VW it must be worth loads...

Posted by: JD - 06 August 2010 15:54:22
[quote=pre67vw]I'm not aware of Bugatti Jam. [/quote] They told me not to tell you.:oops:

Posted by: GKL 7 - 06 August 2010 19:17:25
[quote=pre67vw] I'm not aware of Bugatti Jam. [/quote] Which fruit is used to make that? I think prices have gone way over the top. Every one thinks they are sat on a pot of gold.

Posted by: 55Kab - 06 August 2010 20:14:35
[quote='50 Karmann]Every one thinks they are sat on a pot of gold[/quote] Agree totally. There are just too many car's about for them to command silly prices, especially Split Screen Van's, I mean, not exactly rare are they but for the same money people want for a very good one you could buy a fairly rare or unusual exotic including 911's together with some nice vintage British tin.

Posted by: lifeintheslowlane - 06 August 2010 20:21:26
Come on all you "holier than thou" types sat there with your valuable VWs complaining about prices...how much are yours insured for...a couple of quid?:wink:

Posted by: pre67vw - 06 August 2010 20:31:26
[quote=lifeintheslowlane]Come on all you "holier than thou" types sat there with your valuable VWs complaining about prices...how much are yours insured for...a couple of quid?:wink: [/quote] Mine is insured for what I think it's worth, but actually I might need to bump it up considerably as if anything did happen to it I doubt I'd be able to replace it with the insurance money...

Posted by: GKL 7 - 06 August 2010 20:45:54
[quote=lifeintheslowlane]Come on all you "holier than thou" types sat there with your valuable VWs complaining about prices...how much are yours insured for...a couple of quid?:wink: [/quote] Haven't got one,so there. Like Martin said take a look around the classic car market and see what you can pick up for the same money.

Posted by: Kev - 06 August 2010 21:01:43
I can't really work out where people get the money from for some of these cars / buses. There seems to be lots of rich people in the hobby now or maybe I am just in the wrong job :lol: Looking at the prices of bare shells and other peices of junk for sale I think my cab is way under insured, not on the road at the moment though anyway.

Posted by: ianmac - 06 August 2010 21:14:19
At the end of the day anything is 'worth' the amount people will pay, I think the VW scene has changed, there are a lot of everyday families who want a bay window camper and think nothing of paying £15-20k for a so called 'restored' camper. I know a guy importing bay windows giving them a quick flash over and a tart up and punting them out for £15k each all day long- he can't get enough of them. This in turn pushes anything slightly older and more desirable up. That aside there are some nice VWs about for reasonable money- just got to keep your eyes open, my brother just recently picked a well advertised very nice RHD oval for what I consider to be a very reasonable money.:?

Posted by: ianmac - 06 August 2010 21:14:19

At the end of the day anything is 'worth' the amount people will pay, I think the VW scene has changed, there are a lot of everyday families who want a bay window camper and think nothing of paying £15-20k for a so called 'restored' camper. I know a guy importing bay windows giving them a quick flash over and a tart up and punting them out for £15k each all day long- he can't get enough of them. This in turn pushes anything slightly older and more desirable up. That aside there are some nice VWs about for reasonable money- just got to keep your eyes open, my brother just recently picked a well advertised very nice RHD oval for what I consider to be a very reasonable money.:?

Posted by: RockStock - 06 August 2010 23:49:28
[quote=ianmac]my brother just recently picked a well advertised very nice RHD oval for what I consider to be a very reasonable money.:?[/quote] Coral Red?

Posted by: RockStock - 06 August 2010 23:52:56
[quote=55Kab]especially Split Screen Van's, I mean, not exactly rare are they[/quote] Beetles, not exactly rare are they Bays, bonkers prices! See the G'Day Kombis ad in the July/Aug issue of VW Camper? [url=https://www.gdaykombis.co.uk/products/index.php?cat=1&subcat=1]G'Day Kombis[/url]

Posted by: JD - 07 August 2010 01:06:16
[quote=nev] Looking at the prices of bare shells and other peices of junk for sale I think my cab is way under insured, not on the road at the moment though anyway. [/quote] Just had an insurance guy estimate the value of my cab. He came back with 9000 euro. I challenged him to try and show me one single other driveable semaphore cabrio for 9000 euro anywhere in Germany. There are projects for sale for 10K and ropey US imports for 15K! And a 54 for 45K.:shock: But there [i]are[/i] still bucket loads of cheap Beetles around - just not ones that people on here would class as collectible.

Posted by: JD - 07 August 2010 01:06:16

[quote=nev] Looking at the prices of bare shells and other peices of junk for sale I think my cab is way under insured, not on the road at the moment though anyway. [/quote] Just had an insurance guy estimate the value of my cab. He came back with 9000 euro. I challenged him to try and show me one single other driveable semaphore cabrio for 9000 euro anywhere in Germany. There are projects for sale for 10K and ropey US imports for 15K! And a 54 for 45K.:shock: But there [i]are[/i] still bucket loads of cheap Beetles around - just not ones that people on here would class as collectible.

Posted by: 55Kab - 07 August 2010 13:47:08
[quote=JD]But there [i]are[/i] still bucket loads of cheap Beetles around - just not ones that people on here would class as collectible.[/quote] That was my point above. Want a 65-67 Beetle? Easy. Want a 58-64 a little harder but not exactly rare. Want a good 56-57 Oval? Fairly easy but again not rare. 53-55 Oval getting harder and so on with coachbuilts and the like commanding a lot more.

Posted by: mrsherbie - 07 August 2010 14:07:25
[quote=JD]Just had an insurance guy estimate the value of my cab. He came back with 9000 euro.[/quote] :shock: My 79 is on agreed value of £10k ( £1k is in the wheels) it is very scruffy but og and 33k miles. Finding another for £9k with my mileage would not be impossible but not easy or instant. But yours is 20yrs older, so therefore obviously less desirable anyway, so I agree with your insurance guy :lol:

Posted by: mrsherbie - 07 August 2010 14:07:25

[quote=JD]Just had an insurance guy estimate the value of my cab. He came back with 9000 euro.[/quote] :shock: My 79 is on agreed value of £10k ( £1k is in the wheels) it is very scruffy but og and 33k miles. Finding another for £9k with my mileage would not be impossible but not easy or instant. But yours is 20yrs older, so therefore obviously less desirable anyway, so I agree with your insurance guy :lol:

Posted by: Rich Oakley - 07 August 2010 18:25:07
THE biggest driver of the rapidly inflating prices is the 'coolness' of campers. People from outside the VW hobby are buying them because they are 'cool', man. The same thing happened in the late 80s with Beetles. Rusty, bodged 1303s were selling for silly money to people who just wanted 'a Beetle'. The last three Bay Window campers I have sold have all been mint condition, unrestored British RHD campers and they have all sold for decent money to 30-something or middle-aged couples wanting to be part of the cool fraternity. I still consider Beetles, on the whole, to be reasonably priced. If you shop around, you can still pick up a very nice RHD semaphore Beetle for under £5k, LHD for less. The REALLY rare stuff has started to attract attention from the likes of wealthy people who are just buying them for investment purposes.

Posted by: Rich Oakley - 07 August 2010 18:25:07

THE biggest driver of the rapidly inflating prices is the 'coolness' of campers. People from outside the VW hobby are buying them because they are 'cool', man. The same thing happened in the late 80s with Beetles. Rusty, bodged 1303s were selling for silly money to people who just wanted 'a Beetle'. The last three Bay Window campers I have sold have all been mint condition, unrestored British RHD campers and they have all sold for decent money to 30-something or middle-aged couples wanting to be part of the cool fraternity. I still consider Beetles, on the whole, to be reasonably priced. If you shop around, you can still pick up a very nice RHD semaphore Beetle for under £5k, LHD for less. The REALLY rare stuff has started to attract attention from the likes of wealthy people who are just buying them for investment purposes.

Posted by: 48REME - 07 August 2010 19:08:25
The high prices don't reflect the rarity of a car. High prices are driven by a fashion or a trend in particular models. The higher the demand, the higher the price. My car is extremely rare for example, probably rarer than any pre-57 model and no less scarse than a KDF but it will never command a particularly high price because there isn't an interest or a demand for this very specialised and obscure field of interest. Another example: even though they are very scarse, I am sure it is far more difficult to sell a Rometsch Lawrence than it is to sell a Banana. Why? Because they are simply not as much in vogue or in demand as the other coachbuilt. Splits and Ovals are getting more and more expensive because it's what everybody wants, not because they are rare. They are in fact getting easier to source nowadays than ever, thanks to the internet.:wink:

Posted by: 48REME - 07 August 2010 19:08:25

The high prices don't reflect the rarity of a car. High prices are driven by a fashion or a trend in particular models. The higher the demand, the higher the price. My car is extremely rare for example, probably rarer than any pre-57 model and no less scarse than a KDF but it will never command a particularly high price because there isn't an interest or a demand for this very specialised and obscure field of interest. Another example: even though they are very scarse, I am sure it is far more difficult to sell a Rometsch Lawrence than it is to sell a Banana. Why? Because they are simply not as much in vogue or in demand as the other coachbuilt. Splits and Ovals are getting more and more expensive because it's what everybody wants, not because they are rare. They are in fact getting easier to source nowadays than ever, thanks to the internet.:wink:

Posted by: lifeintheslowlane - 07 August 2010 19:42:30
How about a VW coachbuilt made for just 4 years and still at a very affordable price? Yep the early Karmann Ghia Coupes are still available in the US for a knockdown price. Not so much the early convertibles as they were a one year only car and people have latched onto the fact. A Rometsch is obviously a rarer car but the Ghia is arguably a more stylish design and don't let anyone tell you they're not a true coachbuilt. As a lot of earlier cars slip out of reach of the average enthusiast, early Ghia prices will follow the trend. If I could convince my wife...I'd be buying another before they too slip out of reach.

Posted by: lifeintheslowlane - 07 August 2010 19:42:30

How about a VW coachbuilt made for just 4 years and still at a very affordable price? Yep the early Karmann Ghia Coupes are still available in the US for a knockdown price. Not so much the early convertibles as they were a one year only car and people have latched onto the fact. A Rometsch is obviously a rarer car but the Ghia is arguably a more stylish design and don't let anyone tell you they're not a true coachbuilt. As a lot of earlier cars slip out of reach of the average enthusiast, early Ghia prices will follow the trend. If I could convince my wife...I'd be buying another before they too slip out of reach.

Posted by: 64rotbox - 07 August 2010 20:40:44
[quote=pre67vw]Bugattis were never cheap 'peoples cars' though...[/quote] No, but Mk1/2 Escorts were and they go for insane prices these days. 2CVs are getting very expensive indeed, Morris Minor prices are on the up, nice Renault 4s are nudging £2k, Fiat 500s are out of my price range etc. I will concede that VW price rises are the daftest of the lot though. There appear to be a lot of people out there with too much cash and no friends who will pay anything to get into a ready-made 'lifestyle' and 'social circle'. Anyway, as long as they stay sky-high until I decide to get rid of my Split camper, I'm not really that bothered. I can't see myself ever owning that split Beetle I've wanted for 35 years, but I'll just have to accept it.

Posted by: 64rotbox - 07 August 2010 20:40:44

[quote=pre67vw]Bugattis were never cheap 'peoples cars' though...[/quote] No, but Mk1/2 Escorts were and they go for insane prices these days. 2CVs are getting very expensive indeed, Morris Minor prices are on the up, nice Renault 4s are nudging £2k, Fiat 500s are out of my price range etc. I will concede that VW price rises are the daftest of the lot though. There appear to be a lot of people out there with too much cash and no friends who will pay anything to get into a ready-made 'lifestyle' and 'social circle'. Anyway, as long as they stay sky-high until I decide to get rid of my Split camper, I'm not really that bothered. I can't see myself ever owning that split Beetle I've wanted for 35 years, but I'll just have to accept it.

Posted by: pre67vw - 10 August 2010 22:24:10
Talking of crazy prices... [url=https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110571388464&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_786wt_920]https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110571388464&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_786wt_920[/url]

Posted by: GKL 7 - 10 August 2010 22:54:01
[quote=pre67vw]Talking of crazy prices... [url=https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110571388464&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_786wt_920]https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110571388464&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_786wt_920[/url][/quote] That interior is just Nasty:shock:

Posted by: 69project - 10 August 2010 23:00:54
prices will go up due to demand and less of certain models available every year,barn finds seem to becoming less recently so fresh cars will eventually dissapear i agree that ghias will up in price...i even think type3s and even fastbacks will go up as well as people look to over options to get into vws its a bit like the housing market,many people have bgt there cars years ago for very little money and they have been very good investments.

Posted by: 69project - 10 August 2010 23:00:54

prices will go up due to demand and less of certain models available every year,barn finds seem to becoming less recently so fresh cars will eventually dissapear i agree that ghias will up in price...i even think type3s and even fastbacks will go up as well as people look to over options to get into vws its a bit like the housing market,many people have bgt there cars years ago for very little money and they have been very good investments.

Posted by: GKL 7 - 10 August 2010 23:05:18
[quote=69project] its a bit like the housing market [/quote] Houses aren't selling Si,and i think at these prices, and going up,some sellers will struggle to part with their VW. Top,top cars are selling for these prices,but people are advertising lesser cars for top dollar.

Posted by: lifeintheslowlane - 10 August 2010 23:16:37
[quote='50 Karmann]That interior is just Nasty:shock: [/quote] As tasteful as a Turkish knocking shop.:roll: ...no offence to our Turkish friends of course.:wink:

Posted by: pre67vw - 10 August 2010 23:25:04
[quote='50 Karmann]That interior is just Nasty:shock: [/quote] The exterior isn't great either! I wonder what they were thinking, maybe they should be checked out for substance abuse [-x

Posted by: cupa65 - 10 August 2010 23:46:39
I'm not been funny but my friend once drove to London with his Dad, in his works van. It happened to be an early T2. It took them 19 hours to get there due to a headwind!!!! In some instances they were in 1st gear going up hills. Now someone tell me that that's cool! Some people want a T2 having never driven one. In the mid eighties we bought Mercedes 207 Diesel van, it would only do 55 mph uphill and 65 mph on the flat! It was a proper pain to drive and if it was windy:( When we swopped it for a T4 it was a 78 bhp revelation! At least a 1200 Beetle is faster (just) than the 56 mph limited speed limit of HGV's and the like! Me I'll stick to my T5, it's brill!!!!

Posted by: cupa65 - 10 August 2010 23:46:39

I'm not been funny but my friend once drove to London with his Dad, in his works van. It happened to be an early T2. It took them 19 hours to get there due to a headwind!!!! In some instances they were in 1st gear going up hills. Now someone tell me that that's cool! Some people want a T2 having never driven one. In the mid eighties we bought Mercedes 207 Diesel van, it would only do 55 mph uphill and 65 mph on the flat! It was a proper pain to drive and if it was windy:( When we swopped it for a T4 it was a 78 bhp revelation! At least a 1200 Beetle is faster (just) than the 56 mph limited speed limit of HGV's and the like! Me I'll stick to my T5, it's brill!!!!

Posted by: 54 Gertie - 10 August 2010 23:53:05
[quote=cupa65] At least a 1200 Beetle is faster (just) than the 56 mph limited speed limit of HGV's and the like! [/quote] My bone stock 1200 engine is good for a LOT more than 56 mph. :wink:

Posted by: cupa65 - 11 August 2010 13:28:57
Hi I had a little blast in my 65 1200, with KPH speedo, and had 110 kph on a short stretch of road. [ATTACH]4767[/Attach]

Posted by: Rhodrich - 11 August 2010 14:20:34
If rarity = high price, does anyone want to buy my 60,000 mile from new RHD 412LE Variant? Probably rarer than a split window bug these days...... :lol:

Posted by: 48REME - 11 August 2010 15:31:17
This is really going round in circles. Why can't some simply understand the pattern here? The more you want your ovals and splits, the more sellers out there who know this (through the internet and indeed enthusiast forums like this one) will charge higher prices. A trend or a fashion generates a market niche, it's a natural process, nothing weird about this. And even those trying to flog off some dodgy car for more than it's worth will naturally think that it's bound to gather interest since it's still from a breed of vehicle which is in demand. And yes, it's exactly the same as in the housing market, certainly in London anyway. So, don't be surprised...:wink:

Posted by: 48REME - 11 August 2010 15:31:17

This is really going round in circles. Why can't some simply understand the pattern here? The more you want your ovals and splits, the more sellers out there who know this (through the internet and indeed enthusiast forums like this one) will charge higher prices. A trend or a fashion generates a market niche, it's a natural process, nothing weird about this. And even those trying to flog off some dodgy car for more than it's worth will naturally think that it's bound to gather interest since it's still from a breed of vehicle which is in demand. And yes, it's exactly the same as in the housing market, certainly in London anyway. So, don't be surprised...:wink:

Posted by: GKL 7 - 11 August 2010 19:47:09
[quote=Rhodrich]If rarity = high price, does anyone want to buy my 60,000 mile from new RHD 412LE Variant? Probably rarer than a split window bug these days...... :lol: [/quote] Rob's your man.

Posted by: GKL 7 - 11 August 2010 19:48:56
[quote=48REME] London [/quote] meh!

Posted by: pre67vw - 11 August 2010 20:49:28
[quote=48REME]And yes, it's exactly the same as in the housing market, certainly in London anyway. So, don't be surprised...:wink: [/quote] I disagree! We've been through a recession (and might be going further into it soon) The housing Market has been very flat with a lot of properties losing value and yet VW prices seem to keep going up. Maybe VWs are better investments at the moment and that has pushed prices up but I don't think it's supply and demand. Ironically old VWs are less rare today than they've ever been, 20 years ago you would never see a Heb for sale anywhere, now there's usually one for sale on the Internet somewhere - same for a lot of other models also. However, my original point was less about the actual prices and more about the effect of them on the hobby. It's now a fact of life that old VWs are expensive, but is that good for the hobby or bad?

Posted by: pre67vw - 11 August 2010 20:49:28

[quote=48REME]And yes, it's exactly the same as in the housing market, certainly in London anyway. So, don't be surprised...:wink: [/quote] I disagree! We've been through a recession (and might be going further into it soon) The housing Market has been very flat with a lot of properties losing value and yet VW prices seem to keep going up. Maybe VWs are better investments at the moment and that has pushed prices up but I don't think it's supply and demand. Ironically old VWs are less rare today than they've ever been, 20 years ago you would never see a Heb for sale anywhere, now there's usually one for sale on the Internet somewhere - same for a lot of other models also. However, my original point was less about the actual prices and more about the effect of them on the hobby. It's now a fact of life that old VWs are expensive, but is that good for the hobby or bad?

Posted by: pre67vw - 11 August 2010 20:52:59
[quote=Rhodrich]If rarity = high price, does anyone want to buy my 60,000 mile from new RHD 412LE Variant? Probably rarer than a split window bug these days...... :lol: [/quote] What colour is it?

Posted by: 48REME - 12 August 2010 01:59:59
[quote=pre67vw] Ironically old VWs are less rare today than they've ever been, 20 years ago you would never see a Heb for sale anywhere, now there's usually one for sale on the Internet somewhere - same for a lot of other models also.[/quote] So we agree Rob, like I said, a concentrated demand for the same very specific models generated by a trend can only mean an increase in prices, even if there are apparently lots surfacing here and there through the internet. Whether it's good or bad for the hobby, it's bound to happen. Trends and fashions push up prices. It happens at varying scales in all car enthusiasts' circles but not as much as in VW circles because it remains the most famous car in the world and no other car has affected cultures all over as this curious little insect on wheels. No other car can claim to have started its life as a sinister reminder of a pre-war enemy dictatorship's alarming industrial and technological progress, then be painted over with peace signs and flowers to carry hippies to Woodstock and finally reach maturity and assurance at the pinnacle of its fame by representing the cool chunky convertible for glamorous girls with Farrah hair in California! What a piece of history, which many, all over the world, will naturally want to own a share of! Maybe it was a cheap hobby in the 70s and 80s but it was too early then to see what is now the bigger overall picture of this amazing 60-odd year-old film. Now we appreciate that and the hobby created around the myth has invited unavoidable potential for a market to supply and satisfy the needs of fans. It's not too kind to our pockets now but already, back in the days when I bought good split window beetles for £2K/£3K throughout the 90s, I remember a lot of older enthusiasts reminiscing even better good old days when no one cared about these old clapped-out tanks that only a few anoraks like them would care to save from the graveyard for £50. So really, does anything change?:wink:

Posted by: 48REME - 12 August 2010 01:59:59

[quote=pre67vw] Ironically old VWs are less rare today than they've ever been, 20 years ago you would never see a Heb for sale anywhere, now there's usually one for sale on the Internet somewhere - same for a lot of other models also.[/quote] So we agree Rob, like I said, a concentrated demand for the same very specific models generated by a trend can only mean an increase in prices, even if there are apparently lots surfacing here and there through the internet. Whether it's good or bad for the hobby, it's bound to happen. Trends and fashions push up prices. It happens at varying scales in all car enthusiasts' circles but not as much as in VW circles because it remains the most famous car in the world and no other car has affected cultures all over as this curious little insect on wheels. No other car can claim to have started its life as a sinister reminder of a pre-war enemy dictatorship's alarming industrial and technological progress, then be painted over with peace signs and flowers to carry hippies to Woodstock and finally reach maturity and assurance at the pinnacle of its fame by representing the cool chunky convertible for glamorous girls with Farrah hair in California! What a piece of history, which many, all over the world, will naturally want to own a share of! Maybe it was a cheap hobby in the 70s and 80s but it was too early then to see what is now the bigger overall picture of this amazing 60-odd year-old film. Now we appreciate that and the hobby created around the myth has invited unavoidable potential for a market to supply and satisfy the needs of fans. It's not too kind to our pockets now but already, back in the days when I bought good split window beetles for £2K/£3K throughout the 90s, I remember a lot of older enthusiasts reminiscing even better good old days when no one cared about these old clapped-out tanks that only a few anoraks like them would care to save from the graveyard for £50. So really, does anything change?:wink:

Posted by: JD - 12 August 2010 09:21:41
[quote=48REME] at the pinnacle of its fame by representing the cool chunky convertible for glamorous girls with Farrah hair[/quote] Anna?:d

Posted by: 48REME - 12 August 2010 11:59:51
Yes James! Girls in glamorous California...and Kent!:wink:

Posted by: lifeintheslowlane - 12 August 2010 12:53:13
[quote=48REME]Yes James! Girls in glamorous California...and Kent!:wink: [/quote] Sussex actually...but who's counting. She'll be cavorting on Southsea Common in her bikini on Sunday...don't worry pictures will be forthcoming.8)

Posted by: Rhodrich - 13 August 2010 17:36:23
[quote=pre67vw]What colour is it?[/quote] Black. Advert here..... https://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread.php?t=659918 :d

Posted by: pre67vw - 13 August 2010 17:54:26
[quote=Rhodrich]Black. Advert here..... https://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread.php?t=659918 :d [/quote] Ah, no - I wanted a red one :wink:

Posted by: GKL 7 - 13 August 2010 18:24:07
would have been nicer being an LS. But nice tidy car,never seen a factory black model(is it?) before. Rob's just fussy.

Posted by: vintagebug - 13 August 2010 18:24:18
That's a lovely looking car Rhodri! I don't know much (read: I don't know anything!) about Type 4s, but it seems like a very cheap asking price... it goes against the title of this thread!! [-x :lol:

Posted by: Rhodrich - 13 August 2010 18:31:47
It's actually been resprayed black. The original colour was white. As pointed out, it does now look like a hearse though! It's priced to sell, but Type 4's just don't go for a lot of money, for some reason, despite being the rarest aircooled vw's around!

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