Posted by: pre67vw - 01 June 2012 20:23:50
[url=https://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/190685545602]https://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/190685545602[/url]

Posted by: Kev - 01 June 2012 20:41:21
wow, yeah that is nice 8)

Posted by: WayneMcCarthy - 01 June 2012 21:02:11
Beautiful !

Posted by: six-o-one - 01 June 2012 21:22:40
Very nice! Well restored cars look great. I wish mine had better paint!

Posted by: usariemen - 01 June 2012 21:51:00
That babe is a beauty! So clean and classic.

Posted by: JD - 01 June 2012 22:17:48
Lovely! Wonder if he wants a shagged ´58 in px?:rofl:

Posted by: 64rotbox - 01 June 2012 23:06:40
Ooo. Spot on, isn't it?

Posted by: vintagebug - 02 June 2012 20:10:09
That is beautiful! Interesting that it says it was first registered on 04.09.53- it's a zwitter cabrio so maybe he means 09.04.53? I guess the body would've been built a couple of months before that, so that would probably make it one of the last zwitter cabrios to come out of the Karmann factory. Apart from a couple of minor details, that looks to be spot on. A lovely cabrio, and if it stays at that price (currently 27,550 euros, it's bound to go up a lot more) that's a bargain! :thumbup:

Posted by: Martenni - 02 June 2012 20:34:01
Interesting. I didn't notice the zwitter-ashtray yet. Are there any other clues that this is a zwitter ? BTW : 30.049 euro now. Edit : Speedo seems '53 oval to me. Also : on the last picture of the registration papers : the chassis-number seems to begin with 1-05... Zwitter should start with 1-04... Could it be that just the ashtray is wrong ? Edit 2 : Engine-number stated on the papers = 20-0608420 (July 1953 barndoor)

Posted by: JD - 04 June 2012 15:35:22
How can you tell it´s a zwitter?

Posted by: vintagebug - 04 June 2012 23:24:37
I assume it is a zwitter from the ashtray- zwitter ashtrays have no handle or surround. Of course, it may be a later cabrio with a zwitter ashtray fitted... :unsure:

Posted by: Rich Oakley - 05 June 2012 00:34:13
Did nobody enquire yet about the body/chassis number? You would be able to tell from the window frames if it is a Zwitter or an Oval, but you can't see the detail in the pics.

Posted by: Martenni - 06 June 2012 13:45:16
I asked the seller for chassis-number, body-number and extra pictures. Got this : " [i] - chassis-number = 1-0514xxx - engine was replaced by VW in 1960[/i] " The chassis-number makes it a mid-august 1953. First registration date is 4th sept 1953. My guess is that this auction won't hit the reserve price.

Posted by: vintagebug - 06 June 2012 14:20:23
It looks like the zwitter ashtray is wrong, then! It's still a lovely car though :thumbup:

Posted by: GKL 7 - 06 June 2012 15:28:00
What date was the starter button stopped?

Posted by: vintagebug - 06 June 2012 16:10:22
[quote=GKL 7]What date was the starter button stopped?[/quote] I think it was either on 21st December '53 (same day as the engine went from 25hp to 30hp) or right at the end of December 1953. '54-model year Beetles don't have it.

Posted by: vintagebug - 11 June 2012 12:00:52
I checked & the starter button stopped on 21st December 1953. The Oval cabrio on ebay didn't reach the reserve price.

Posted by: Andy Sparks - 18 June 2012 23:43:04
Has small round heater outlets on the carpet, isn't that earlier than early oval. But think that the window frames look later, as they should be Ally if it's a zwitter. Hood handle looks chromed as well

Posted by: vintagebug - 19 June 2012 08:59:29
[quote=Andy Sparks]Has small round heater outlets on the carpet, isn't that earlier than early oval. But think that the window frames look later, as they should be Ally if it's a zwitter. Hood handle looks chromed as well[/quote] The round heater outlets were included up to the end of 1953, so they're correct for a 1953 Oval. '53 Oval cabrio window frames are chromed & the bonnet handle is a one-year-only item (chromed I believe).