Posted by: pre67vw - 19 June 2009 16:03:30
Not sure how well this is going to work, it's a little bit experimental - but for those of you not going to Hessisch Oldendorf I'm trying to set it up so that I can send photos straight from my mobile to the forum. 8) I'll be doing a little bit of testing, so don't be suprised if photos keep appearing and disapearing on this thread...

Posted by: pre67vw - 21 June 2009 13:39:30
Last minute repairs are never good [ATTACH]3223[/Attach]

Posted by: pre67vw - 22 June 2009 10:20:17
KK to the rescue! [ATTACH]3226[/Attach]

Posted by: Richard - 22 June 2009 17:30:29
[quote]Last minute repairs are never good[/quote] lol, neither is last minuet fitting of a new 25hp engine!

Posted by: 54 Gertie - 22 June 2009 17:39:10
[quote=Richard] lol, neither is last minuet fitting of a new 25hp engine! [/quote] Make Tom run along side, that'll gain you another 2 horses! :wink: :lol:

Posted by: Bjoern - 22 June 2009 18:41:37
Here in Hessich Oldendorf, most of the people work for the event next weekend. The camping-ground is prepared (and has enough place even for non-registered visitors), the grass and trees were freshly cut and the streets are cleend. The local shops decorated their shops with Volkswagen-stuff and everywhere you can feel this special spirit. Today, we brought the VW 38 into the old chirch - the right place for the "holy grail". The church will be open during the whole weekend so that everybody can see this wrecked old Volkswagen so many people talking about. On sunday, the local priest will pray about it. If the weatherman is righ, the weather should be very nice so that there is nearly no reason not to come. [img]https://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr315/beetleaid/Uraltkaefertreffen/HOTreffen148.jpg[/img] [img]https://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr315/beetleaid/Uraltkaefertreffen/HOTreffen155.jpg[/img] [img]https://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr315/beetleaid/Uraltkaefertreffen/HOTreffen174.jpg[/img]

Posted by: 54 Gertie - 22 June 2009 18:46:31
Ill say a prayer and light a candle for it when im there! :wink:

Posted by: tman - 23 June 2009 01:20:20
There are a lot of red booking entries on [url=https://www.uraltkaefer.de/teilnehmer.pl?lang=en]https://www.uraltkaefer.de/teilnehmer.pl?lang=en[/url], I'm guessing these bookings are unconfirmed. Are they likely to be offered out for others? Alternatively, does anybody have a reservation for 1 car / 2 humans they no longer need?! :lol: :beer:

Posted by: Bjoern - 23 June 2009 06:59:28
As a austrian user from another VW-Forum said - the campingground in Hessisch Oldendorf is like a seperate meeting - open and big enough for all VW-friends. It is only 2 minutes by feeds into the old city of Hessisch Oldendorf, where the meeting of the booked participants is. We are sorry, that we can't get non-registered participants inside, but there is realy no place anymore. These participants will get a present-bag with some nice items and a numbered collectorsbadge. The full registered participants will also get a free entrance into the city-hall of Hessisch Oldendorf. Inclusive a big luch, a seperate Tombola and some programme. If you are not registered yet, don't worry. Come with your vintage Volkswagen to the camping ground and enjoy it. Today, we are going to pick up some very interesting, never seen Volkswagen and some participants send us pictures of the cars, they really come to the show - as a special surprise. I will try to write more news inclusive some actualy fotos this evening. But now it is time to start the things we have to do today...;-) [img]https://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr315/beetleaid/Uraltkaefertreffen/HOTreffen126.jpg[/img]

Posted by: 55Kab - 23 June 2009 08:29:47
Wow Bjoern, some nice cars there and a great idea for the VW38. I think we should all say a prayer! :lol: I'm absolutely gutted I cannot make this event, so I hope you and all the team have a really good show. From the looks of it it'll be one of the best Vintage VW events for years. *Note for Rob... Have you fixed your uploading issues? Those of us who cannot make it will be itching to see pics as soon as possible and the more the merrier. Wish all the UK crowd a safe trip there and back with your cars.

Posted by: mrsherbie - 23 June 2009 10:58:24
[quote=Bjoern] On sunday, the local priest will pray about it.[/quote] You know, sometimes I worry about you :lol: I shall pray ( well I would if I was even vaguely religious) for good weather, and good times for all of you!! :beer:

Posted by: SixtyFive - 23 June 2009 11:13:35
i can't wait! 8)

Posted by: mrmagyar - 23 June 2009 17:37:24
I have a spare place going in my '55 (including main event ticket) but you'll have to be in Bradford for three o'clock tomorrow afternoon!

Posted by: Bjoern - 23 June 2009 20:06:32
Hessisch Oldendorf, 23th of june. [img]https://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr315/beetleaid/Uraltkaefertreffen/HOTreffen214.jpg[/img]

Posted by: zelensis61 - 23 June 2009 20:35:47
Hey Bjoern, Lets multiply this ammount of hebs....by 10:shock: Nice to see the line up, specialy the second on the left. Hope to study that one in detail. The rest is known by me:wink: . See you friday.

Posted by: 55Kab - 23 June 2009 20:53:25
[quote=mrmagyar]I have a spare place going in my '55 (including main event ticket) but you'll have to be in Bradford for three o'clock tomorrow afternoon![/quote] H'mmm, now then, I wonder if Qatar Airways flies to Bradford yet... :lol:

Posted by: 55Kab - 23 June 2009 20:55:32
[quote=Bjoern]Hessisch Oldendorf, 23th of june[/quote] :shock: Fabulous. Can't wait to see pics from this event.

Posted by: 54 Gertie - 23 June 2009 20:58:35
[quote=55Kab] :shock: Fabulous. Can't wait to see pics from this event. [/quote] If Rob's newfangled trickery fails, im sure I can be persuaded to put some up as we go :wink: That brown Heb is truly stunning! Of course I am bias! :wink:

Posted by: GKL 7 - 23 June 2009 21:32:33
H.O is going to break all records:d

Posted by: Bjoern - 24 June 2009 00:24:25
It could be:wink: [img]https://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr315/beetleaid/Uraltkaefertreffen/SDC11286.jpg[/img]

Posted by: zelensis61 - 24 June 2009 07:41:12
Oh my god....Is that ET's Heb on the right? :shock: I could not resist..Sorry :wink: .

Posted by: 55Kab - 24 June 2009 09:27:23
[quote=Bjoern]It could be:wink: [img]https://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr315/beetleaid/Uraltkaefertreffen/SDC11286.jpg[/img][/quote] :shock: :shock: Now come on...that's just a rare colour photo taken at the Heb plant sometime in 1950.... :lol: Still :shock:

Posted by: Peter_Plade - 24 June 2009 16:59:07
We are 4 cars leaving from Denmark tonight. Does the weather forcast still promiss sun?

Posted by: RockStock - 24 June 2009 18:11:50
check the positioning of that rear window! shame [img]https://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr315/beetleaid/Uraltkaefertreffen/SDC11286.jpg[/img]

Posted by: lifeintheslowlane - 24 June 2009 18:27:16
[quote=Peter_Plade]We are 4 cars leaving from Denmark tonight. Does the weather forcast still promiss sun?[/quote] Yes Sun...and rain and thunder & lightning...but no snow.:? Hope the weather men have it wrong.

Posted by: heb623 - 24 June 2009 18:38:52
[quote=zelens[quote=zelensis61]Oh my god....Is that ET's Heb on the right? :shock: [/quote] You wish that it was my heb but I have to disappoint you:? The heb shown there is maybe more drivable than mine! The "stupid" mechanic working to the heb promissed me for five weeks long and that on the life of his mother that the heb would be finished in time before H.O! And you know what? His mother is dead by now!!! :shock: So that means to say that ET will show a 85% finished heb!!! So tomorrow at 04.00 in the morning I will leave here! But with what ..... guess .... it is not going to be my Hebmuller!!![-x :twisted: ET BTW Zelensis I hope you were joking otherwise we'll have a fight, ok?:shock: And don't start "toappologize" yourself your "bondo talks" still hurt!:wink: As punishment you have to buy me some :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: ok?

Posted by: zelensis61 - 24 June 2009 18:39:47
[quote][/quote]check the positioning of that rear window! shame. There must be a difference between Karmann built type 14a and a Hebmuller built Type 14a.:roll: Altough this one from Karmann is not made by them..[-x .? It is a real Hebmuller. ET, Sorry to hear that. Anyway, I will see you there. Have a safe trip.

Posted by: bus porn - 24 June 2009 18:49:37
[quote=lifeintheslowlane]Hope the weather men have it wrong.[/quote] Wished I hadn't looked at the weather forecast in the Hanover area for the weekend now......as above!!! :shock:

Posted by: GKL 7 - 24 June 2009 20:37:02
[quote=heb623] And you know what? His mother is dead by now!!! :shock: [/quote] That is so cruel ET,that i laughed for half an hour :lol:

Posted by: Rich Oakley - 24 June 2009 20:55:16
[quote=bus porn] Wished I hadn't looked at the weather forecast in the Hanover area for the weekend now......as above!!! :shock: [/quote] :cry: :evil: https://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/516 If you like rain, and lots of it, you're in for a treat.

Posted by: heb623 - 24 June 2009 21:04:10
[quote='50 Karmann] That is so cruel ET,that i laughed for half an hour :lol: [/quote] Jesus .... George ... only one man who can laugh with all my misery! Shame on you!:oops: :oops: :oops: Now youy have to buy me some :beer: :beer: :beer: too!!! Attention I think I am going to be drunk!!!:shock: :twisted: ET

Posted by: Bjoern - 24 June 2009 21:09:18
[quote=heb623] You wish that it was my heb but I have to disappoint you:? The heb shown there is maybe more drivable than mine! The "stupid" mechanic working to the heb promissed me for five weeks long and that on the life of his mother that the heb would be finished in time before H.O! And you know what? His mother is dead by now!!! :shock: So that means to say that ET will show a 85% finished heb!!! So tomorrow at 04.00 in the morning I will leave here! But with what ..... guess .... it is not going to be my Hebmuller!!![-x :twisted: ET BTW Zelensis I hope you were joking otherwise we'll have a fight, ok?:shock: And don't start "toappologize" yourself your "bondo talks" still hurt!:wink: As punishment you have to buy me some :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: ok? [/quote] Bad news and sorry for that. I think, that here in HO are plenty enough people who can help you to finish most of the missing 15 %.

Posted by: zelensis61 - 24 June 2009 21:57:03
If ET buy me some beer, I will help him...Rather then have to fight with him :lol: . I know he can be evil...as he write it here all the time And when he buys me beer,:beer: :beer: :beer: x10 I do not have to do this for him and he will not get drunk [-x . And that is a good point. Et and drunk is not a simple issue , Ask Guido.:? But then of coarse, Et have to ask for it. ...To help. Et, Is the car raintight? If so, you will have more luck then others like pascal:( . Regarding the wether forecast: To put the 38 in church was not a good idea...now the boss, above is upset and he will give us a shower. The forecast says sun mixed with showers. https://wetter.rtl.de/redaktion/wettercockpit/index.php?md5=28cf33b7e8009c2b5b7e49c6fa6fa238 Best regards Peter

Posted by: GKL 7 - 24 June 2009 22:03:58
[quote=heb623] Jesus .... George ... only one man who can laugh with all my misery! [/quote] I wasn't laughing about your car not being ready ET.I feel for you 100%,wish i could help. It seemed a funny thing to say about the guy's(mechanics) mother. But things like this are very minor,think of what Guido has been through this year and everything else does not seem important. Guido is getting better and there will be other times for the Heb.

Posted by: heb623 - 24 June 2009 22:37:27
Yes George no laugh with my car and no laugh about the dead of "the mechanic' his mother it was only an evil joke! Indeed the things Guido is going thru are not the best things that can happen to human being! I wish him a complete recovery so he can do what he likes to!!! But he will be in HO, that's something he doesn't like to miss! :twisted: ET

Posted by: Bjoern - 25 June 2009 19:14:19
Impressions from Hessisch Oldendorf 2009. [img]https://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr315/beetleaid/Uraltkaefertreffen/HOTreffen257.jpg[/img] [img]https://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr315/beetleaid/Uraltkaefertreffen/HOTreffen260.jpg[/img] [img]https://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr315/beetleaid/Uraltkaefertreffen/HOTreffen270.jpg[/img] [img]https://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr315/beetleaid/Uraltkaefertreffen/HOTreffen271.jpg[/img]

Posted by: JD - 25 June 2009 21:19:49
Looks great. Hope my car doesn´t let me down tomorrow!

Posted by: Andy Sparks - 26 June 2009 14:46:16
Have a good time guys

Posted by: karmann1952 - 29 June 2009 01:06:11
Here are my pics: https://karmann1952.de/html/hessisch_oldendorf_2009.html Thanks for this fantastic meeting....

Posted by: zelensis61 - 29 June 2009 08:32:23
:cry: , dammn , it is already over. I got home last night. I want to say a big thanks to the Grundmanns and their team for the biggest, nicest event that took place. It was a blast for me, again. Great to speak and meet so many people that I only knew over this and other sites. I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did. Also great to find some new info on the KARMANN and HEBMULLER REGISTRY that you can find here: https://karmann1952.de/index.html I am sure it will be updated soon but please give us some time. Thanks Claus. :beer: [url=https://https://karmann1952.de/html/hessisch_oldendorf_2009_131.html]https://https://karmann1952.de/html/hessisch_oldendorf_2009_131.html[/url] AND THANKS FOR BREAKING THE RECORD WITH THE HEBMULLERS:lol: . The 38 VW is not yet identified. Due to the hard work last weeks to prepare the event, there was no more time to do the research on the car. They are getting closer and closer but it is a matter of time to identify. I only can say for now that it is a number between car 1 and 30.... And maximum a digit 1 in the first place. I am sure it will be announced soon. Best regards, PETER.

Posted by: austria - 29 June 2009 13:04:25
Dear all friends. I arrieved at this moment from HO (800km by car and 2000km by train) an all I can say: Thank for all - It was a great meeting!!!:d :lol: :d :lol: :d :lol: :d Thanks to Fam. Grundmann for the help to my friend with his oval and his broken belt pulley on friday!

Posted by: vintagebug - 29 June 2009 20:07:24
[quote]I want to say a big thanks to the Grundmanns and their team for the biggest, nicest event that took place. [/quote] X 2!!! :d I just got home a few hours ago & want to say that HO was just an amazing show, it has to be one of the best. The VW38 inside the church was a masterstroke- although I have to say it felt kind of weird looking at a VW sitting in the middle of a church! And the Heb line-up outside the church was incredible, I don't know how many there were in the end, maybe 20 or so? Can anyone confirm the final Heb count? And one street crammed full of split Beetles, another one wall-to-wall with Ovals, a third with Karmann Ghias, it goes on... And what can I say about the Grundmann museum?- WOW, what a collection of rare & superb cars!! I can't think of anything else to add right now, I'm still lost for words... :d Just to repeat- a HUGE thank you to the Grundmanns for putting on an absolutely fantastic show. It really must take an enormous amount of effort, hard work & time to do this and I'm sure every single person who attended would agree that it was a superb event. The only downside is that we have to wait another 4 years until the next one!! :cry: Dave

Posted by: JD - 29 June 2009 20:52:36
What a great weekend - had a very good time. 1200 odd kilometers and the car never missed a beat, and kept its cool inspite of the sticky weather. Good to meet everyone that I met and sorry to have missed everyone that I missed. Thanks to the Grundmanns for a cracking show! Here´s to the next one.

Posted by: ianmac - 29 June 2009 21:13:14
[quote=JD] Thanks to the Grundmanns for a cracking show! Here´s to the next one.[/quote] Totally brilliant show, thanks to all the people of HO for their kind hospitality :d :d :d

Posted by: zelensis61 - 29 June 2009 22:21:59
hey, For the record. 32 country's. 1400 Campers 27 original Hebmüllers countless splits, ovals, busses and Karmanns. BEST EVER, cant wait until next show. Best regards. Peter

Posted by: 1962bug - 29 June 2009 22:38:08
[quote=karmann1952]Here are my pics: https://karmann1952.de/html/hessisch_oldendorf_2009.html Thanks for this fantastic meeting....[/quote] Great photos, thanks for sharing8)

Posted by: oval56 - 30 June 2009 07:20:54
nothing more to say, fantastic event, fantastic cars, fantastic people, good weather :d , very nice conversations, great collection of parts and cars at the grundman's collection. first ride with my heb, everything worked fine 1200km by train and 300km on the rod over the weekend :wink: [img]https://www.oval56.de/bilder%20xxx/290609%2008.jpg[/img] looking forward to see all of you in 2013 in HO :beer: :d my pictrues are also online [url=https://www.oval56.de/inhalt10.html]klick here and than HO 2009[/url]

Posted by: VW Stan - 30 June 2009 12:24:13
Another fantastic weekend in Hessisch Oldendorf. Well done to the team for the show. Some of my pictures from the weekend... [url=https://www.bandwagen.com/photos/ho09/ho09.html]https://www.bandwagen.com/photos/ho09/ho09.html[/url] [img]https://www.bandwagen.com/photos/ho09/ho09-Images/70.jpg[/img]

Posted by: heb623 - 30 June 2009 18:06:02
First of all I congratulate the Grundmann's and their team for that magnificent meeting! We (Guido, his wife and me ET) left on Monday afternoon! We could not leave on sunday because we had such a good time over the weekend so we decided to go home a day later and enjoy one more day. So no [b]"cold turkey"[/b] for us! Now that we are talking about [b]"turkey", [/b]such a little bird told me that Yan Rami's heb broke down on the way home so the possibility excists that there is going to come a Hebmuller up for sale in England!!! Or Yan has to buy a new engine! But speaking of breaking down, when Guido turned up the motorway an alarm in his car went and said to close the engine immediatly because the Audi engine was to warm and loosing all the cooling fluid! I know that shit happens! After waiting an hour we were picked up by a sort of ADAC (Touring assistance)! Than brought to garage (Audi, trailer and split window) to see that we weren't the only Belgians who broke down! On the parking lot of that garage was also a standing a (I think a 1964) genuine Mach 1 beetle! (Isn't that something typical Belgian with an Okrasa engine?) During the repairs of our "tow truck" (read Audi) we managed to find a nice restaurant so atleast we could eat and drink! After doing the dishes (we had no money nomore to pay for the food) we could go back to pick up the car and go home! Driving, driving and driving you think? Yes but only till the border of Germany and Holland because the border was closed!!! Only God knowes why!!! Luckely the GPS of Guido's car guided us along all places of interest! But it was totally dark so we did not see much of the sights!!! Around midnight I could open a few cannisters of ice and ice cold "Hoegaarden" and after finishing those Belgian quality beers I could go to bed and have sweet dreams over the passed weekend! :twisted: ET Sorry Yan I could not resist!!!

Posted by: JD - 30 June 2009 19:40:54
[quote=heb623]was also a standing a (I think a 1964) genuine Mach 1 beetle! (Isn't that something typical Belgian with an Okrasa engine?) [/quote] I spoke to that guy with the green Mach1 at the show. He said he had had a few Mach1s and said about sixty were built and 11 are left. Looked like a nice car.

Posted by: GKL 7 - 30 June 2009 20:41:07
[quote=oval56]my heb[/quote] Great Car Rob wouldn't have slammed it[-x

Posted by: GKL 7 - 30 June 2009 21:04:01
The car that blew me away was the black 56 Lowlight.I haven't seen a picture yet that did this car justice. It was SUPERB.

Posted by: zelensis61 - 30 June 2009 21:11:39
Hello guys, I found some links.:roll: ..if you find time :lol: have a look. https://www.flickr.com/photos/wouterduijndam/sets/72157620582519382/ https://www1.ndr.de/flash/mediathek/mediathek.html?media=ndsmag648 https://karmann1952.de/html/hessisch_oldendorf_2009.html https://picasaweb.google.be/rollingandscraping/HessischOldendorf2009# https://slammedsixty.blogspot.com/ https://www.uraltkaefer.de/pics/ho240609/ https://www.uraltkaefer.de/pics/ho250609/ https://www.uraltkaefer.de/pics/ho260609/ https://josvandegalaxy.skynetblogs.be/post/7103604/hessisch-oldendorf-2009--deel-1- https://oldskoolmaq.skynetblogs.be/post/7104759/hessisch---oldendorf- https://jbvwt2b.skynetblogs.be/post/7105026/hessisch-oldendorf--1- https://www.flat4free.be/forum/viewtopic.php?t=37600&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50&sid=0ce0baf353e83ac43c29dacf037a7e50 https://www.fototreffen.be/ https://airmannschaft.nl/site/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=103 https://www.rollingandscraping.tk/ https://mills.skynetblogs.be/post/6926552/hessisch-oldendorf-2009 https://aircultblog.de/2009/06/28/hessisch-oldendorf-2009/ https://forum.oldvwmania.nl/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=5 https://notch-queen.blogspot.com/2009/06/erste-bilder-von-hessisch-oldendorf.html https://blog.vw38.de/ https://www.vw-bulli.de/de/galerien/veranstaltungen/hessisch-oldendorf-2009.html https://www.wikio.de/deutschland/niedersachsen/hessisch_oldendorf https://www.driving-fun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=14697&p=450992 https://www.myheimat.de/springe/beitrag/108913/vw-veteranentreffen-in-hessisch-oldendorfteil-3-mittendrin-und-rundherum/ https://www.myheimat.de/springe/beitrag/108924/vw-veteranentreffen-in-hessisch-oldendorfteil-4-und-die-kirche-machte-mit/ https://www.myheimat.de/springe/beitrag/108907/vw-veteranentreffen-in-hessisch-oldendorfteil-2-bullyas/ https://www.myheimat.de/springe/beitrag/108895/vw-veteranentreffen-in-hessisch-oldendorfteil-1-pkwas/ https://www.myheimat.de/bad-muender-am-deister/beitrag/108431/das-heilige-blechle-wuerdig-aufgebahrt-im-kirchenschiff/ https://www.typ15.de/pics/2009/1-ho/index_0.html https://www.pixum.de/viewalbum/id/4371032 https://www.flat4ever.com/gallery/browseimages.php?c=519&userid= https://www.airmighty.com/index/index.html https://www.typ15.de/pics/2009/1-ho/index_0.html https://www.pixum.de/viewalbum/id/4371964 https://www.bug2bug.de/2009/ho/Bilder%20Dommi/index.html https://www.bandwagen.com/photos/ho09/Page2.html Best regards Peter

Posted by: VW Stan - 30 June 2009 21:15:26
[quote=zelensis61]Hello guys, I found some links.:roll: ..if you find time :lol: have a look. Best regards Peter [/quote] Some!!! :shock:

Posted by: fiftyfour - 30 June 2009 21:24:48
How come there are lowered cars there? Thought they weren't keen on them being there?

Posted by: aerosilver - 30 June 2009 22:10:23
[quote='50 Karmann]The car that blew me away was the black 56 Lowlight.I haven't seen a picture yet that did this car justice. It was SUPERB.[/quote] This one? [IMG]https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/OG59/HO-09213.jpg[/IMG] Have a look at these threads- https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=357808 https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=217215&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 Owned by Rinie Roodbeen from the Netherlands,Golde sunroof,Judson,n.o.s. parts galore,top car!

Posted by: GKL 7 - 30 June 2009 22:13:47
That's the one,but it just doesn't look as good in a pic

Posted by: 55Kab - 30 June 2009 22:40:46
[quote=fiftyfour]How come there are lowered cars there? Thought they weren't keen on them being there? [/quote] I was wondering that also. I actually thought there seemed a fair amount of lowered vehicles in attendance and that the lowered Heb's got quite a lot of attention. If it's ready, perhaps I'll have to take the 55 in 4 years time :lol:

Posted by: ianmac - 30 June 2009 23:01:59
[quote='50 Karmann]The car that blew me away was the black 56 Lowlight.I haven't seen a picture yet that did this car justice. It was SUPERB.[/quote] I agree one amazing car, the other amazing car (van) that blew me away was the blue barndoor panel van with the vw dealer logos and vw parts in the back, the build standard of this was insane:d

Posted by: JD - 30 June 2009 23:12:04
Hah! My car was on German TV - on the second link that Peter posted at about 2.08 on the right of the guy. Ah - I always knew I was destined for the big time!:lol: :roll:

Posted by: Next_Racer - 01 July 2009 10:58:33
First of all my congratulations to the whole team. It was a fantastic weekend in Hessisch Oldendorf. For me it was my first visit to this meeting. We left Thursday morning at 8h to Hessisch Oldendorf and we arrived there around 16h. After a journey of about 530km without trouble. The only problem I had was not enough time to check out all the cars. I really was looking forward to this show and it turned out great for us. The link to my pics you can find [url=https://www.vwovaal.blogspot.com]here[/url]

Posted by: JD - 01 July 2009 11:27:59
[quote=Next_Racer]First of all my congratulations to the whole team. It was a fantastic weekend in Hessisch Oldendorf. For me it was my first visit to this meeting. We left Thursday morning at 8h to Hessisch Oldendorf and we arrived there around 16h. After a journey of about 530km without trouble. The only problem I had was not enough time to check out all the cars. I really was looking forward to this show and it turned out great for us. The link to my pics you can find [url=https://www.vwovaal.blogspot.com]here[/url][/quote] Nice pictures - glad you took some of my car too!!:d

Posted by: Next_Racer - 01 July 2009 12:54:33
[quote=JD] Nice pictures - glad you took some of my car too!!:d [/quote] Can you tell me what car is yours?

Posted by: JD - 01 July 2009 14:10:03
It´s the black Kabrio - the last car in the empty platz by the church on Sunday night.

Posted by: RockStock - 01 July 2009 14:23:50
[quote=55Kab] I was wondering that also. I actually thought there seemed a fair amount of lowered vehicles in attendance and that the lowered Heb's got quite a lot of attention. If it's ready, perhaps I'll have to take the 55 in 4 years time :lol: [/quote] The sprinkling of lowered VWs were politely accepted Clearly Hebs live in a different category... It's a stock show, & that's overwhelmingly what attendees want to see

Posted by: oval56 - 01 July 2009 14:39:07
[quote=RockStock] The sprinkling of lowered VWs were politely accepted Clearly Hebs belong in a different category... Don't get the wrong idea; it's a stock show & that's overwhelmingly what attendees want to see [/quote] nice discussion, i do had also some on the weekend, BUT the most german original/stock fan's know me and my work, the accept it as long as nothing original is damaged or modified to get it to a real low level. i do lowering for me and for fun and for show...but it should be drivable. also i try to explain the the lowering guys ar not a kind of human who wants to provocate or who wants to destroy original parts and stock cars, most of them respect an appreciate the stock cars restored or unrestored with patina and original history. the point is how the critic will be communicated... andi / heb455

Posted by: Richard - 01 July 2009 14:54:52
[quote=RockStock] The sprinkling of lowered VWs were politely accepted Clearly Hebs live in a different category... It's a stock show, & that's overwhelmingly what attendees want to see [/quote] I was amazed at how many people appreciated my car, I was expecting it be frowned upon for being lowered & on 15" solids, but everyone seemed to love it.

Posted by: JD - 01 July 2009 15:19:42
[quote=oval56] nice discussion, i do had also some on the weekend, BUT the most german original/stock fan's know me and my work, the accept it as long as nothing original is damaged or modified to get it to a real low level. i do lowering for me and for fun and for show...but it should be drivable. also i try to explain the the lowering guys ar not a kind of human who wants to provocate or who wants to destroy original parts and stock cars, most of them respect an appreciate the stock cars restored or unrestored with patina and original history. the point is how the critic will be communicated... andi / heb455[/quote] I was more amazed to see the other lowered heb had those big 1970s front indicators and one of the Austrian ones had 1200 rear lights. Those really jumped out at me!! What does "MIL GT" mean?

Posted by: VW Stan - 01 July 2009 15:49:19
[quote=Richard] I was amazed at how many people appreciated my car, I was expecting it be frowned upon for being lowered & on 15" solids, but everyone seemed to love it.[/quote] The only thing that made me frown was helping to bump-start it! :wink:

Posted by: oval56 - 01 July 2009 16:44:44
[quote=JD] I was more amazed to see the other lowered heb had those big 1970s front indicators and one of the Austrian ones had 1200 rear lights. Those really jumped out at me!! What does "MIL GT" mean?[/quote] i still do not know, the former owner is in this time in chemo therapie, so a contact is nearly not possible, but i will try to get this thing solved :-) the story to the other heb is, that as peter bought it, the car does hve had export bumpers, big taillights and wrong fenders on rear, also chromemolding wa sa later part, and he tried to fix soem things in same short time as me ( he got his car in march, i got mine in februar this year).. so he changed the correct rear fenders, bumpers and chrome molding, also he replaces the tailligts, than some work on the brakes, lowering job and frontaxle, some spot repairs, and last but not least, the painjob had not finished in time the right frontfenders he als still have and correct front hood ( is also a late one same as mine) so he accepted it to go with this ugly indicators and wrong frontfenders to hessisch oldendorf :-)

Posted by: SplitPersonality - 01 July 2009 17:21:37
[quote=oval56] nice discussion, i do had also some on the weekend, BUT the most german original/stock fan's know me and my work, the accept it as long as nothing original is damaged or modified to get it to a real low level. i do lowering for me and for fun and for show...but it should be drivable. also i try to explain the the lowering guys ar not a kind of human who wants to provocate or who wants to destroy original parts and stock cars, most of them respect an appreciate the stock cars restored or unrestored with patina and original history. the point is how the critic will be communicated... andi / heb455[/quote] The lowering is "unboltable" and all fine I think... the car looked really cool! BUT - I see a much bigger "authenticity / destruction of soul & history"-problem with the fact that you intend to sandblast and fully restore this car... As I understand it is one of only 2 - two - known Hebmullers with mainly first paint / original paint on a large portion of the body. Very, very unique... as opposed to all the others, it has a geniune value in being preserved in the original paint and not be converted to "yet another one". My two cents only, and of course entirely up to you. I just feel the the global library of VW-preservation-elements is one chapter shorter if you erase all this from this one unique car. Otherwise - I love it and what you have done to it..

Posted by: oval56 - 01 July 2009 17:56:12
[quote=SplitPersonality] The lowering is "unboltable" and all fine I think... the car looked really cool! BUT - I see a much bigger "authenticity / destruction of soul & history"-problem with the fact that you intend to sandblast and fully restore this car... As I understand it is one of only 2 - two - known Hebmullers with mainly first paint / original paint on a large portion of the body. Very, very unique... as opposed to all the others, it has a geniune value in being preserved in the original paint and not be converted to "yet another one". My two cents only, and of course entirely up to you. I just feel the the global library of VW-preservation-elements is one chapter shorter if you erase all this from this one unique car. Otherwise - I love it and what you have done to it..[/quote] the problem for me is, i love patina, also i do love perfeclty restored cars in all detais, but you are right, also a summary of this weekend was to let this car as it is and try to stop or slow down the process of rust. the problem is, where is the border, so the right side is done, the left side still needs work, but i do have the problem, without sandblasting you dont get it rustfre... so now at the moment my only plan is to fix the rearwindow but i will not exchange the whole roof, and than i will try to do my interieur complete (not new, only a real cleaning, and try to copy the missing parts of the rearseats). my point is, i will use and drive it, and technic should be fine, and body should be as it is.

Posted by: JD - 01 July 2009 18:11:04
[quote=oval56] i still do not know, the former owner is in this time in chemo therapie, so a contact is nearly not possible, but i will try to get this thing solved :-) the story to the other heb is, that as peter bought it, the car does hve had export bumpers, big taillights and wrong fenders on rear, also chromemolding wa sa later part, and he tried to fix soem things in same short time as me ( he got his car in march, i got mine in februar this year).. so he changed the correct rear fenders, bumpers and chrome molding, also he replaces the tailligts, than some work on the brakes, lowering job and frontaxle, some spot repairs, and last but not least, the painjob had not finished in time the right frontfenders he als still have and correct front hood ( is also a late one same as mine) so he accepted it to go with this ugly indicators and wrong frontfenders to hessisch oldendorf :-)[/quote] Ah, I kind of thought it must be something like that. Best wishes to the former owner of your car. I must say it was kind of obvious from your website what car it was! I just looked at all the parts that you didn´t show!! I would also think twice about repainting it, if it really is first paint.

Posted by: oval56 - 01 July 2009 19:02:28
[quote=JD] Ah, I kind of thought it must be something like that. Best wishes to the former owner of your car. I must say it was kind of obvious from your website what car it was! I just looked at all the parts that you didn´t show!! I would also think twice about repainting it, if it really is first paint.[/quote] now not all is first paint, but 3 fenders, and dors ar first paint, and decklid rear i think, but some parts alo dashboard have ben repainted one time... i have tried not to loose the stock, patina look, but if you have to weld some areas you can't avoid the problem of painting it with spraycan...

Posted by: GKL 7 - 01 July 2009 19:49:18
[quote=JD] Ah - I always knew I was destined for the big time!:lol: :roll: [/quote] Nearly not 'tho, when you leave it in the car park late at night with the lights on:oops: Good seeing you again JD:wink:

Posted by: JD - 01 July 2009 20:24:24
[quote='50 Karmann] Nearly not 'tho, when you leave it in the car park late at night with the lights on:oops: Good seeing you again JD:wink: [/quote] Likewise.:d That "lights on" trick is getting to be a bit of a habit lately. Must be senility kicking in.

Posted by: reminou75 - 01 July 2009 22:17:05
Some of my pics [url=https://ruedelsarte.skynetblogs.be]HERE[/url]

Posted by: vintagevw - 01 July 2009 22:38:57
What a great week-end we had! To all the guys I've talked to it was a real pleasure to see you. I've met Andy who owns the(Heb 455), those 2 cars (heb 458 ) haven't see eachother since the separate in the factory. :d Andi had the wrong front bonnetbadge on his heb witch was the one that I needed for my zwitter so he offered me a trade with his one!:beer: Thanks for the Red Bull from Italy Roland! :lol: :lol: :lol: I had to switch a bearing of the zwitter vert becouse the brakes where a bit too close. Otherwise it rides perfect! Thanks to Christian and his team for this perfect and unforgetable week-end.:beer:

Posted by: RockStock - 01 July 2009 23:00:31
Rich, your car is very cool I thought it was a nice touch fitting the solids; good respect. Looks much better on the Fuchs though! [IMG]https://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/RockStock/HO09/P6280389Large.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/RockStock/HO09/P6280390Large.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/RockStock/HO09/P6280391Large.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/RockStock/HO09/P6280392Large.jpg[/IMG] Is Peter on here? Have you seen the video I posted on TS? Got a good shot of you driving out [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM_MYik3Y0c[/youtube] Andy (Heb455) - loving yours too. og paint rocks

Posted by: Next_Racer - 02 July 2009 00:07:11
[quote=JD]It´s the black Kabrio - the last car in the empty platz by the church on Sunday night.[/quote] A ok. Nice car you have. Maybe next time we should meet each other and have a :beer:

Posted by: Peter_Plade - 02 July 2009 08:47:07
[quote=zelensis61]Hello guys, I found some links.:roll: ..if you find time :lol: have a look. https://www.flickr.com/photos/wouterduijndam/sets/72157620582519382/ https://www1.ndr.de/flash/mediathek/mediathek.html?media=ndsmag648 https://karmann1952.de/html/hessisch_oldendorf_2009.html https://picasaweb.google.be/rollingandscraping/HessischOldendorf2009# https://slammedsixty.blogspot.com/ https://www.uraltkaefer.de/pics/ho240609/ https://www.uraltkaefer.de/pics/ho250609/ https://www.uraltkaefer.de/pics/ho260609/ https://josvandegalaxy.skynetblogs.be/post/7103604/hessisch-oldendorf-2009--deel-1- https://oldskoolmaq.skynetblogs.be/post/7104759/hessisch---oldendorf- https://jbvwt2b.skynetblogs.be/post/7105026/hessisch-oldendorf--1- https://www.flat4free.be/forum/viewtopic.php?t=37600&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50&sid=0ce0baf353e83ac43c29dacf037a7e50 https://www.fototreffen.be/ https://airmannschaft.nl/site/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=103 https://www.rollingandscraping.tk/ https://mills.skynetblogs.be/post/6926552/hessisch-oldendorf-2009 https://aircultblog.de/2009/06/28/hessisch-oldendorf-2009/ https://forum.oldvwmania.nl/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=5 https://notch-queen.blogspot.com/2009/06/erste-bilder-von-hessisch-oldendorf.html https://blog.vw38.de/ https://www.vw-bulli.de/de/galerien/veranstaltungen/hessisch-oldendorf-2009.html https://www.wikio.de/deutschland/niedersachsen/hessisch_oldendorf https://www.driving-fun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=14697&p=450992 https://www.myheimat.de/springe/beitrag/108913/vw-veteranentreffen-in-hessisch-oldendorfteil-3-mittendrin-und-rundherum/ https://www.myheimat.de/springe/beitrag/108924/vw-veteranentreffen-in-hessisch-oldendorfteil-4-und-die-kirche-machte-mit/ https://www.myheimat.de/springe/beitrag/108907/vw-veteranentreffen-in-hessisch-oldendorfteil-2-bullyas/ https://www.myheimat.de/springe/beitrag/108895/vw-veteranentreffen-in-hessisch-oldendorfteil-1-pkwas/ https://www.myheimat.de/bad-muender-am-deister/beitrag/108431/das-heilige-blechle-wuerdig-aufgebahrt-im-kirchenschiff/ https://www.typ15.de/pics/2009/1-ho/index_0.html https://www.pixum.de/viewalbum/id/4371032 https://www.flat4ever.com/gallery/browseimages.php?c=519&userid= https://www.airmighty.com/index/index.html https://www.typ15.de/pics/2009/1-ho/index_0.html https://www.pixum.de/viewalbum/id/4371964 https://www.bug2bug.de/2009/ho/Bilder%20Dommi/index.html https://www.bandwagen.com/photos/ho09/Page2.html Best regards Peter [/quote] Hi Peter nice meeting you there, and sorry for me just running of with the photo without saying properly goodbye :-) Once again the show was so amazing I really can´t beleive it hapended and allready is over, there is not more to say than I will be back in 4 years!

Posted by: 54 Gertie - 02 July 2009 12:38:12
[quote=VW Stan] The only thing that made me frown was helping to bump-start it! :wink: [/quote] X2! :lol:

Posted by: SixtyFive - 02 July 2009 17:48:05
[quote=54 Gertie] X2! :lol: [/quote] X11!!! i had to push it EVERYTIME we stopped :lol:

Posted by: Richard - 02 July 2009 18:02:41
[quote=SixtyFive] X11!!! i had to push it EVERYTIME we stopped :lol: [/quote] mwahhaha! :lol:

Posted by: VW Stan - 02 July 2009 18:11:14
[quote=SixtyFive] X11!!! i had to push it EVERYTIME we stopped :lol: [/quote] A small price to pay for a ride to the show! :wink:

Posted by: 54 Gertie - 02 July 2009 19:10:59
[quote=VW Stan] A small price to pay for a ride to the show! :wink: [/quote] I must admit that with a unknown 25 horse fitted the day before the show, I was expecting to see them at the side of the road getting recovered! :oops: :lol:

Posted by: Lays - 03 July 2009 08:41:36
[b]Hessisch Oldendorf - 5th International Vintage Volkswagen Show - 26-28/06/2009 423 pictures and 2 Bugland Wallpapers online :!:[/b] [url=https://www.bugland.be/Hessisch_Oldendorf_event_2009.html][img]https://meetings.bugland.be/2009/Hessisch_Oldendorf_event_2009_files/Photos/Bugland_be-vs-H_O_2009_068%20(web)_thumb.jpg[/img] [img]https://meetings.bugland.be/2009/Hessisch_Oldendorf_event_2009_files/Photos/Bugland_be-vs-H_O_2009_048%20(web)_thumb.jpg[/img] [img]https://meetings.bugland.be/2009/Hessisch_Oldendorf_event_2009_files/Photos/Bugland_be-vs-H_O_2009_117%20(web)_thumb.jpg[/img] [img]https://meetings.bugland.be/2009/Hessisch_Oldendorf_event_2009_files/Photos/Bugland_be-vs-H_O_2009_153%20(web)_thumb.jpg[/img] [img]https://meetings.bugland.be/2009/Hessisch_Oldendorf_event_2009_files/Photos/Bugland_be-vs-H_O_2009_227%20(web)_thumb.jpg[/img] [img]https://meetings.bugland.be/2009/Hessisch_Oldendorf_event_2009_files/Photos/Bugland_be-vs-H_O_2009_082%20(web)_thumb.jpg[/img][/url] [url=https://www.bugland.be/Hessisch_Oldendorf_event_2009.html][img]https://meetings.bugland.be/2009/Hessisch_Oldendorf_event_2009_files/Photos/Bugland_be-vs-H_O_2009_115%20(web)_thumb.jpg[/img] [img]https://meetings.bugland.be/2009/Hessisch_Oldendorf_event_2009_files/Photos/Bugland_be-vs-H_O_2009_440%20(web)_thumb.jpg[/img] [img]https://meetings.bugland.be/2009/Hessisch_Oldendorf_event_2009_files/Photos/Bugland_be-vs-H_O_2009_248%20(web)_thumb.jpg[/img] [img]https://meetings.bugland.be/2009/Hessisch_Oldendorf_event_2009_files/Photos/Bugland_be-vs-H_O_2009_217%20(web)_thumb.jpg[/img] [img]https://meetings.bugland.be/2009/Hessisch_Oldendorf_event_2009_files/Photos/Bugland_be-vs-H_O_2009_453%20(web)_thumb.jpg[/img] [img]https://meetings.bugland.be/2009/Hessisch_Oldendorf_event_2009_files/Photos/Bugland_be-vs-H_O_2009_322%20(web)_thumb.jpg[/img][/url] [b]Pictures online @ www.bugland.be[/b]

Posted by: JD - 03 July 2009 08:45:38
[quote=Richard] mwahhaha! :lol: [/quote] Your car is on the news report too at 2mins 27 seconds. https://www1.ndr.de/flash/mediathek/mediathek.html?media=ndsmag648

Posted by: pp - 05 July 2009 11:21:11
Enjoyed my trip to Hessisch Oldendorf very much. Been there before, but now for the first time as a participant. Longest drive since I bought my T34, all went smooth and comfortable. I covered some 1000kms in total and found out that the 1600 engine is quite fuel efficient at long distance drives. Before I left in Hessisch I topped up the fuel tank and about 5 hours later, when I arrived in my hometown Lier, I did the same. I only managed to put 28,7 liters of fuel in the tank, to my own surprise that was…! Having covered a distance of 402kms, this means the fuel consumption was way below the average for a T34 on the home journey: only 6,91 liters/100kms (0,34 miles/gallon)...! I must add that I drove at a relaxing 90-100km/h and the backwind was helping a bit. Nevertheless, it means that the 41 year old original engine is still doing well, nice to know…! Hessisch was a great show, only a handful of T34’s, but nice ones. Here are some pictures: Johannes Krasenbrink’s amazingly 1500S, probably the most original early T34 on the planet (1962): [img]https://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/572594.jpg[/img] Nice restored 1963 convertible from Joerg Fischer, one of only five remaining M341 prototypes: [img]https://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/572595.jpg[/img] From Belgium also, a 1969 Cypress green with very nice brown interior, owned by Manfred Veithen: [img]https://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/572597.jpg[/img] And ofcourse this one: [img]https://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/572596.jpg[/img] regards, Paul

Posted by: lifeintheslowlane - 05 July 2009 14:36:26
A couple of pictures by and of the Hampshire boys from the Hessisch weekend. The first is of Trev Mouncey on a spiritual journey. He hadn’t shown much interest in the 38 Prototype Beetle until someone suggested Ferdinand Porsche himself had probably touched that very same bodyshell. All of a sudden he was born again and felt the need to absorbed the vibe, like a hippy in a crop circle. Imagine my surprise when I downloaded the pictures...I think it's just a trick of the light but it just might be the ghost of the great man himself. [img]https://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/572106.jpg[/img] This one was taken by Dave Cantle during the athletic dance routines put on as after dinner entertainment. For those of you who weren’t there the guy, bottom centre was throwing the girl around and Dave clicked at the right moment. Amazing how the creative juices are enhanced by large amounts of alcohol. Don't you just love the Zombie bottom right too. [img]https://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/572389.jpg[/img]

Posted by: karmann1952 - 06 July 2009 20:45:50
Hi together, here are all car pictures from the new Hebmuller and split convertible world record in Hessisch Oldendorf: https://karmann1952.de/html/weltrekord.html 29 (:!: ) Hebs & 11 (:roll:) split verts... Greetings from Germany...:beer: Claus

Posted by: pp - 06 July 2009 23:29:07
[quote=karmann1952]Hi together, here are all car pictures from the new Hebmuller and split convertible world record in Hessisch Oldendorf: https://karmann1952.de/html/weltrekord.html 29 (:!: ) Hebs & 11 (:roll:) split verts... Greetings from Germany...:beer: Claus [/quote] Nice work Claus, to have these cars registered. That will be for the benefit of all future owners too. Keep up the good work ! Have made a few pictures of you, caught in action: [IMG]https://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/volkswagenclassics/Hessisch2009/DSC_0427.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/volkswagenclassics/Hessisch2009/DSC_0429.jpg[/IMG] Best regards, Paul