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Posted by: JD - 12 March 2008 12:54:01
I'm all set to order a twin 28pci kit for my stock 1958 motor. I just wondered if anyone is running this setup? Is it worth it for a few extra hp? Will it only get 18mpg afterwards?

Posted by: Etzhold1 - 13 March 2008 05:09:43
It will give you a few HP more thats for sure ! I know a few Germanguy's Who are using them , and they tell nice story's about them , Easy to installed and to adjust , and the adjustigs are staying for 1000's km's ! I did not drive them by myself, but I also have set ready to instaled on my 58 , A friend made the old style intakes for them, and I sold a set to Rob also ! My 58 needs first a complete restoration after that they will be installated ! But we have to finnish first ET's car ! Guido

Posted by: Etzhold1 - 13 March 2008 05:09:43

It will give you a few HP more thats for sure ! I know a few Germanguy's Who are using them , and they tell nice story's about them , Easy to installed and to adjust , and the adjustigs are staying for 1000's km's ! I did not drive them by myself, but I also have set ready to instaled on my 58 , A friend made the old style intakes for them, and I sold a set to Rob also ! My 58 needs first a complete restoration after that they will be installated ! But we have to finnish first ET's car ! Guido

Posted by: JD - 13 March 2008 07:41:24
Thanks Etzhold. It couldn't make the car any slower, thats for sure! Anyone else?

Posted by: snale/bbr - 16 March 2008 10:37:32
Hi JD! Perhaps you should ask AndiH (www.oval56.com) about his setup and knowledge about it.. In fact, I will run myself a dual 28PCI setup on early Riechert manifolds on my 34PS '61 engine. Another good adress is mr. Riechert himself! The only thing is, that you have to phone him... no emails! Regards Thomas [url=https://oldspeed-register.blogspot.com/]Oldspeed-Register[/url] [ATTACH]1100[/Attach]

Posted by: snale/bbr - 16 March 2008 10:37:32

Hi JD! Perhaps you should ask AndiH (www.oval56.com) about his setup and knowledge about it.. In fact, I will run myself a dual 28PCI setup on early Riechert manifolds on my 34PS '61 engine. Another good adress is mr. Riechert himself! The only thing is, that you have to phone him... no emails! Regards Thomas [url=https://oldspeed-register.blogspot.com/]Oldspeed-Register[/url] [ATTACH]1100[/Attach]

Posted by: JD - 17 March 2008 00:05:22
I will give Hr Riechert a call. Someone else told me today that its a good kit that he makes. I think I will just order it. Thanks!

Posted by: Bengt H - 17 March 2008 22:12:21
Works very good for mee, Express kit [img]https://www.langaryd.nu/modeller/upload/data/Express.JPG[/img]

Posted by: JD - 18 March 2008 09:10:00
Nice! I haven't heard of the Express kit, but it looks great.

Posted by: reminou75 - 18 March 2008 13:10:20
I have the same prep' in mind, Express lokkalike, but with 356 Pre-A carbs, and two Cyclones. :oops:

Posted by: JD - 18 March 2008 14:24:13
[quote="reminou75"]I have the same prep' in mind, Express lokkalike, but with 356 Pre-A carbs, and two Cyclones. :oops: [/quote] What are Pre A carbs exactly? Not Solex, or? How big?

Posted by: reminou75 - 18 March 2008 16:11:49
you have some different models, but very hard to find the good ones... The closest model, much more easy to find, is the 32 PBIC, which was also on later Pre-A models.

Posted by: gimmesomeshelter - 29 March 2008 21:05:01
Hello- I've read that the Riechert dual 28PCI kit adds ~15% to your horse power.

Posted by: JD - 29 April 2008 12:35:03
My Riechert kit turned up in the post this morning. 8) Just waiting for a few more bits and the car will be off to the workshop for a much needed R+R session.

Posted by: gimmesomeshelter - 29 April 2008 19:04:41
Hello- Would you happen to know if other carbs will fit onto your Riechert manifolds? I'm thinking of putting a 74mm Porsche crank into a 36hp case, and I believe something like Solex 32PBIC's might be more appropriate, but I have no idead if the manifolds/linkage will work. Thanks, Paul Vickerman

Posted by: JD - 29 April 2008 21:22:46
I'm thinking along the same lines as you at some point in the future, but I really can't tell you if they directly fit on the manifolds or not. Other than saying that the Reichert manifolds aren't terribly thick material, so you may not be able to open them out all that much. I suppose they could be welded if you needed to change the bolt pattern. Thing is - is there really any advantage to using expensive, hard to find old Porsche carbs? Surely one 32mm Solex carb isn't so very different to another, no matter what it started out on? And the head will still be the restrictive part of the setup, or?

Posted by: JD - 29 April 2008 21:22:46

I'm thinking along the same lines as you at some point in the future, but I really can't tell you if they directly fit on the manifolds or not. Other than saying that the Reichert manifolds aren't terribly thick material, so you may not be able to open them out all that much. I suppose they could be welded if you needed to change the bolt pattern. Thing is - is there really any advantage to using expensive, hard to find old Porsche carbs? Surely one 32mm Solex carb isn't so very different to another, no matter what it started out on? And the head will still be the restrictive part of the setup, or?

Posted by: '64 ghia coupe - 01 May 2008 11:05:23
[quote="JD"]My Riechert kit turned up in the post this morning. 8) Just waiting for a few more bits and the car will be off to the workshop for a much needed R+R session.[/quote] Do you mind me asking how much the kit cost you all in? Mike

Posted by: JD - 01 May 2008 13:14:39
Not at all Mike - it was 392 euros and three cents, plus a tenner for a used 28PCI that I picked up elsewhere. Its a [i]very[/i] complete kit though, including rebuild kits for both carbs, correct jets, and as far as I can see, every jubilee clip and piece of hose that you'll need for the job. The only thing I'm not wild about - and its a very small niggle - is that the air filters are shiney stainless. I may paint them black or get them blasted to matt finish.

Posted by: JD - 01 May 2008 13:14:39

Not at all Mike - it was 392 euros and three cents, plus a tenner for a used 28PCI that I picked up elsewhere. Its a [i]very[/i] complete kit though, including rebuild kits for both carbs, correct jets, and as far as I can see, every jubilee clip and piece of hose that you'll need for the job. The only thing I'm not wild about - and its a very small niggle - is that the air filters are shiney stainless. I may paint them black or get them blasted to matt finish.

Posted by: JD - 17 June 2008 22:25:59
Well, they are on there and performance wise its quite an improvement. I don´t have to change down ro third on the autobahn any more (though only just!). Unfortunately the linkage was rather poorly fitted and I´m not getting anything like full throttle opening. Will piss about with it and see what I can come up with. Strange that my accelerator pedal only seems to have about two inches of travel anyway. Is something wrong do you think?

Posted by: JD - 17 June 2008 22:25:59

Well, they are on there and performance wise its quite an improvement. I don´t have to change down ro third on the autobahn any more (though only just!). Unfortunately the linkage was rather poorly fitted and I´m not getting anything like full throttle opening. Will piss about with it and see what I can come up with. Strange that my accelerator pedal only seems to have about two inches of travel anyway. Is something wrong do you think?

Posted by: Peter_Plade - 18 June 2008 11:44:14
Hard to say what the problem might be, maybe the gas cable interfeering with the gearbox or something? I have tried that once. Do you have any pictures, it would nice to see how it looks.

Posted by: JD - 18 June 2008 12:27:05
[quote=Peter_Plade]Hard to say what the problem might be, maybe the gas cable interfeering with the gearbox or something? I have tried that once. Do you have any pictures, it would nice to see how it looks.[/quote] It was always a bit short on travel at the pedal, but I never really thought it might be a problem until now. Maybe its meant to be like that, but it isn´t helping me get full opening at the carbs. Maybe something is bent somewhere.:? I will take a picture, but I can´t do it for a few days. Its all a bit bright and shiney looking compared to the rest of the motor - I think I will spray it all black, try to get the stainless air filters blasted and fit some button headed bolts. It won´t take much to "age" the look of it all.

Posted by: JD - 18 June 2008 12:27:05

[quote=Peter_Plade]Hard to say what the problem might be, maybe the gas cable interfeering with the gearbox or something? I have tried that once. Do you have any pictures, it would nice to see how it looks.[/quote] It was always a bit short on travel at the pedal, but I never really thought it might be a problem until now. Maybe its meant to be like that, but it isn´t helping me get full opening at the carbs. Maybe something is bent somewhere.:? I will take a picture, but I can´t do it for a few days. Its all a bit bright and shiney looking compared to the rest of the motor - I think I will spray it all black, try to get the stainless air filters blasted and fit some button headed bolts. It won´t take much to "age" the look of it all.

Posted by: Peter_Plade - 18 June 2008 12:48:07
What year is your car? I have seen several cars with "new" (gaspedal the one after the roller pedal) were the gas pedal assembly was so worn that it was´nt able to giwe full thottle.

Posted by: JD - 18 June 2008 16:48:43
Its a 1958 LHD. I had a look at lunchtime and it seems to be in good order - it just doesn´t move much.

Posted by: Peter_Plade - 18 June 2008 22:03:43
Hmm damn, then I have no more suggestions, but I am still interested in seeing pictures :-)

Posted by: JD - 29 June 2008 01:52:54
Took it apart a bit today and had a play, and the linkage seems to be working ok - steady pedal pressure and its not so off and on as before. I painted a few bits black too, as the huge shiny cross bar and swivel mount thing were annoying me. I put my drip try back in too and now its getting stinking hot and won´t idle down! Arrgh. This is getting rather trying. [IMG]https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/Jameshdeath/DCP_0423.jpg[/IMG]

Posted by: JD - 29 June 2008 01:52:54

Took it apart a bit today and had a play, and the linkage seems to be working ok - steady pedal pressure and its not so off and on as before. I painted a few bits black too, as the huge shiny cross bar and swivel mount thing were annoying me. I put my drip try back in too and now its getting stinking hot and won´t idle down! Arrgh. This is getting rather trying. [IMG]https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/Jameshdeath/DCP_0423.jpg[/IMG]

Posted by: Bengt H - 29 June 2008 19:53:24
If your engine runs hot its probably wrong timing or lean fuel/air mixture. I see that you have a vacum advance distributor, I would recomend a non vacum distributor because the vacum signal is not so good when you use twin carbs, try a 30 hp bus or a 009. What jets do you have? My experience is that you should have bigger jets than they recomended in the old days, todays fuel is not the same. What condition is your carbs in? most of this carbs are 50+ years and they are worn and full of dirt, almost impossibile to get clean! You have to clean them over and over again. Have you done anything on the acc pump? If they have the original stroke they will probably drown the engine when you accellerate. Keep on working with it and I think you will sort out the problems. Good luck!

Posted by: Bengt H - 29 June 2008 19:53:24

If your engine runs hot its probably wrong timing or lean fuel/air mixture. I see that you have a vacum advance distributor, I would recomend a non vacum distributor because the vacum signal is not so good when you use twin carbs, try a 30 hp bus or a 009. What jets do you have? My experience is that you should have bigger jets than they recomended in the old days, todays fuel is not the same. What condition is your carbs in? most of this carbs are 50+ years and they are worn and full of dirt, almost impossibile to get clean! You have to clean them over and over again. Have you done anything on the acc pump? If they have the original stroke they will probably drown the engine when you accellerate. Keep on working with it and I think you will sort out the problems. Good luck!

Posted by: JD - 30 June 2008 12:04:00
I think you are onto something there Bengt. I had the same problem before with a busted vacuum advance unit and it was really similar - car pulls well low down but is no faster at the top end. I will maybe try a 009 before anything else, but the carbs probably need some attention too. Does anyone do reconditioned carbs properly?

Posted by: JD - 21 July 2008 00:26:54
Twin carb installation, part 732... ...the saga continues... Found a pal with a suitable - non vacuum advance - dizzy in the UK, and brought it over and fitted it today. It has made a big difference - I was able to run 60mph with the top down. Still feels pretty lifeless on the hills, and I will get it timed up properly when I have a chance, but I may just be expecting too much from my 33.8hp. Still, nice to see some improvement, as the last time I drove it, it was dreadful! I´m thinking that the vacuum unit was on the way out, which would explain a lot. It was worse than stock I feel sure.

Posted by: JD - 21 July 2008 00:26:54

Twin carb installation, part 732... ...the saga continues... Found a pal with a suitable - non vacuum advance - dizzy in the UK, and brought it over and fitted it today. It has made a big difference - I was able to run 60mph with the top down. Still feels pretty lifeless on the hills, and I will get it timed up properly when I have a chance, but I may just be expecting too much from my 33.8hp. Still, nice to see some improvement, as the last time I drove it, it was dreadful! I´m thinking that the vacuum unit was on the way out, which would explain a lot. It was worse than stock I feel sure.

Posted by: Judson53 - 13 August 2008 01:13:58
Hi could you tell me were you ordered this kit from please

Posted by: oval56 - 14 August 2008 11:23:34
[quote=Judson53]Hi could you tell me were you ordered this kit from please[/quote] i think he has it direkly from riechert-motorentechnik in barleben germany [url=https://www.riechertmotorentechnik.de/]Riechert[/url] he still offers the kits, but he needs a lot of time, and he uses for comunication only phone and / or fax... internet and e mail is not his world :d

Posted by: Judson53 - 15 August 2008 00:14:30
[quote=oval56] i think he has it direkly from riechert-motorentechnik in barleben germany [url=https://www.riechertmotorentechnik.de/]Riechert[/url] he still offers the kits, but he needs a lot of time, and he uses for comunication only phone and / or fax... internet and e mail is not his world :d [/quote] thanks for that,i can handle fax,me and computers dont get on either does he speek good english?

Posted by: Judson53 - 15 August 2008 00:14:30

[quote=oval56] i think he has it direkly from riechert-motorentechnik in barleben germany [url=https://www.riechertmotorentechnik.de/]Riechert[/url] he still offers the kits, but he needs a lot of time, and he uses for comunication only phone and / or fax... internet and e mail is not his world :d [/quote] thanks for that,i can handle fax,me and computers dont get on either does he speek good english?

Posted by: oval56 - 15 August 2008 09:17:43
not sure if he speaks englisch, if you want a set, contact me via e mail, so i can try to arrange to buy a set over germany ( had bought several sets the last 3 years) i think a fax in englsh, the answer will take longer as a telephoncal from germany (and this takes also longer than a normal order:roll: ) in germany mr riechert is lovely called "opa riechert" means grandfather riechert" :d

Posted by: Torben - 16 August 2008 01:33:57
I have just bought a kit without carbs for app. 400 euro. I just called mr. Reichert on the phone and ordred the complete manifold kit with the rebuild kit for my carbs. Mr. Reichert speaks a very nice english so no troubles here. About 4 weeks later I got a big package with all the goodis. The kit is very comprehensive and complete it is easy to install. The only thing I have done is making two new rods for the acc. pumps to make the amount of fuel smaller from them. I made them 8 mm longer than the originals and made a 4mm thread for easy adjustment. I use a distribitor from a split bus without vaccum advance.

Posted by: Torben - 16 August 2008 01:33:57

I have just bought a kit without carbs for app. 400 euro. I just called mr. Reichert on the phone and ordred the complete manifold kit with the rebuild kit for my carbs. Mr. Reichert speaks a very nice english so no troubles here. About 4 weeks later I got a big package with all the goodis. The kit is very comprehensive and complete it is easy to install. The only thing I have done is making two new rods for the acc. pumps to make the amount of fuel smaller from them. I made them 8 mm longer than the originals and made a 4mm thread for easy adjustment. I use a distribitor from a split bus without vaccum advance.

Posted by: vicpolky - 20 August 2008 00:24:21
[quote=Judson53] thanks for that,i can handle fax,me and computers dont get on either does he speek good english?[/quote] I got a kit from him earlier in the year - spoke to him on the phone - his English is pretty good, and he's very helpful. The kit is excellent too :d

Posted by: der steiner rad - 25 August 2008 12:26:59
At the moment I have a complete twin 34PCI Riechert kit with linkage etc. whic I was going to install on a twin port 1300 for my Ghia project for a bit of power, I am now considering using my kit on my 36HP engine, can I simply buy a pair of early Riechert manifold and use my existing 34PCI carbs and linkage and bolt it on my 36HP engine? Any help would be appreciated. [img]https://i1.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/fd/56/eb42_1.JPG[/img]

Posted by: der steiner rad - 25 August 2008 12:26:59

At the moment I have a complete twin 34PCI Riechert kit with linkage etc. whic I was going to install on a twin port 1300 for my Ghia project for a bit of power, I am now considering using my kit on my 36HP engine, can I simply buy a pair of early Riechert manifold and use my existing 34PCI carbs and linkage and bolt it on my 36HP engine? Any help would be appreciated. [img]https://i1.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/fd/56/eb42_1.JPG[/img]

Posted by: JD - 25 August 2008 23:20:52
[quote=der steiner rad]At the moment I have a complete twin 34PCI Riechert kit with linkage etc. whic I was going to install on a twin port 1300 for my Ghia project for a bit of power, I am now considering using my kit on my 36HP engine, can I simply buy a pair of early Riechert manifold and use my existing 34PCI carbs and linkage and bolt it on my 36HP engine? Any help would be appreciated. [img]https://i1.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/fd/56/eb42_1.JPG[/img][/quote] You´d have to check if the base plates of the carbs are the same bot pattern as 28pcis. If they are, then it should at least physically bolt on.

Posted by: JD - 25 August 2008 23:20:52

[quote=der steiner rad]At the moment I have a complete twin 34PCI Riechert kit with linkage etc. whic I was going to install on a twin port 1300 for my Ghia project for a bit of power, I am now considering using my kit on my 36HP engine, can I simply buy a pair of early Riechert manifold and use my existing 34PCI carbs and linkage and bolt it on my 36HP engine? Any help would be appreciated. [img]https://i1.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/fd/56/eb42_1.JPG[/img][/quote] You´d have to check if the base plates of the carbs are the same bot pattern as 28pcis. If they are, then it should at least physically bolt on.

Posted by: lifeintheslowlane - 26 August 2008 09:15:12
[quote=JD] You´d have to check if the base plates of the carbs are the same bot pattern as 28pcis. If they are, then it should at least physically bolt on.[/quote] 34s have a wider bolt spacing than the 28s.:(

Posted by: JD - 26 August 2008 23:38:32
[quote=lifeintheslowlane] 34s have a wider bolt spacing than the 28s.:( [/quote] Looks like you´ll need a pair of manifolds too then. Its all available separately anyway.

Posted by: Tempie - 05 November 2008 11:31:54
this is the setup in my 58 Also in Belgium [img]https://forum.bugland.be/download.php?id=3149[/img]

Posted by: JD - 08 November 2008 23:29:54
Was tweaking my linkage a bit more today and its finally starting to pay off. It runs better than it ever has done, holding sixty mph uphill (gasp!) and I´m still only getting around three quarters throttle. I think I may take a hammer to the back of the pedal stop to get more movement, as I don´t think theres any more to be had at the linkage. Tempie - I can´t see your pictures!

Posted by: JD - 30 November 2008 18:45:37
More playing about today (beating on the pedal stop!) and its going better than ever. 115kmh on the flat with no problems and I hit 140kmh down hill! Drum brakes really are a bit crap aren´t they?

Posted by: Judson53 - 31 January 2009 20:59:09
How does the choke cable work on these kits

Posted by: JD - 31 January 2009 22:45:08
[quote=Judson53]How does the choke cable work on these kits[/quote] It doesn´t. However, you don´t really need it anymore due to the short manifolds which warm the carbs up quicker. I´m pretty happy with how mine works, finally. Pulls away quite quickly. I´m not sure how much better it is than standard, because my car never ran right with only one carb. I think the dizzy was kippered, so I had no advance.

Posted by: JD - 31 January 2009 22:45:08

[quote=Judson53]How does the choke cable work on these kits[/quote] It doesn´t. However, you don´t really need it anymore due to the short manifolds which warm the carbs up quicker. I´m pretty happy with how mine works, finally. Pulls away quite quickly. I´m not sure how much better it is than standard, because my car never ran right with only one carb. I think the dizzy was kippered, so I had no advance.

Posted by: Judson53 - 01 February 2009 23:24:40
was the kit quiet easy to install and set up,i have read through this thread,did you sort any problems easly?

Posted by: JD - 02 February 2009 08:49:02
[quote=Judson53]was the kit quiet easy to install and set up,i have read through this thread,did you sort any problems easly?[/quote] You get the correct jets in the kit for a stock 1200 so there´s not much to be done in the way of setting up. Have a word with Mr Riechert if you need anything different, he´s very helpful. I didn´t actually install the kit myself. (Wish i had though). It was fitted by a garage at the same time as a lot of other work was done. They didn´t do a very good job. I can´t imagine it would be hard to fit though. The linkage is what took some playing with, in order to get full throttle open, but as I said, I seem to have very limited travel at the pedal for some reason. Took a bit of patience and fiddling, but the other two people I know with this kit have had no problems.

Posted by: JD - 02 February 2009 08:49:02

[quote=Judson53]was the kit quiet easy to install and set up,i have read through this thread,did you sort any problems easly?[/quote] You get the correct jets in the kit for a stock 1200 so there´s not much to be done in the way of setting up. Have a word with Mr Riechert if you need anything different, he´s very helpful. I didn´t actually install the kit myself. (Wish i had though). It was fitted by a garage at the same time as a lot of other work was done. They didn´t do a very good job. I can´t imagine it would be hard to fit though. The linkage is what took some playing with, in order to get full throttle open, but as I said, I seem to have very limited travel at the pedal for some reason. Took a bit of patience and fiddling, but the other two people I know with this kit have had no problems.

Posted by: Judson53 - 02 February 2009 16:53:39
Exelent thanks for your help i think ill order a kit :lol:

Posted by: 54 Gertie - 29 October 2009 13:01:44
JD, having lived with twin PCI's for a while now, how do you rate them? Also, are you sticking with the cent dizzy? What would stop you having two vacuum lines with a T piece from both carbs to a stock vac dizzy? Thanks. 8)

Posted by: JD - 29 October 2009 13:32:45
[quote=54 Gertie]JD, having lived with twin PCI's for a while now, how do you rate them? Also, are you sticking with the cent dizzy? What would stop you having two vacuum lines with a T piece from both carbs to a stock vac dizzy? Thanks. 8) [/quote] Hard to say how much better it is as I fitted the twin carbs to add more power, only to discover that the reason it was so bad before, was that the original dizzy was kippered. So it was awful before and now it´s only pretty bad.:lol: The centrifugal dizzy is supposed to have a better advance curve for a mildly tuned engine (so I´m told). I guess it would work with vacuum lines though. I´ll dig up the part number for mine if you want to look out for one. They came on late 1950s busses. 30horse motors in general seem to vary pretty wildly. I´ve met people who claim theirs will run 120kph with the single carb, which is as good as mine is now with the twins. Maybe my cam is round. While it´s not much faster with the twin carbs, it [i]is [/i]noticeably quicker off the mark and you get more overlap in the gears. It will now generally hold 50mph up steep hills on the autobahn too, which it wouldn´t before. And if not then i can drop to third and scream it along at 50mph anyway. Its more flexible in general.

Posted by: JD - 29 October 2009 13:32:45

[quote=54 Gertie]JD, having lived with twin PCI's for a while now, how do you rate them? Also, are you sticking with the cent dizzy? What would stop you having two vacuum lines with a T piece from both carbs to a stock vac dizzy? Thanks. 8) [/quote] Hard to say how much better it is as I fitted the twin carbs to add more power, only to discover that the reason it was so bad before, was that the original dizzy was kippered. So it was awful before and now it´s only pretty bad.:lol: The centrifugal dizzy is supposed to have a better advance curve for a mildly tuned engine (so I´m told). I guess it would work with vacuum lines though. I´ll dig up the part number for mine if you want to look out for one. They came on late 1950s busses. 30horse motors in general seem to vary pretty wildly. I´ve met people who claim theirs will run 120kph with the single carb, which is as good as mine is now with the twins. Maybe my cam is round. While it´s not much faster with the twin carbs, it [i]is [/i]noticeably quicker off the mark and you get more overlap in the gears. It will now generally hold 50mph up steep hills on the autobahn too, which it wouldn´t before. And if not then i can drop to third and scream it along at 50mph anyway. Its more flexible in general.

Posted by: 54 Gertie - 29 October 2009 13:51:03
[quote=JD] Hard to say how much better it is as I fitted the twin carbs to add more power, only to discover that the reason it was so bad before, was that the original dizzy was kippered. So it was awful before and now it´s only pretty bad.:lol: The centrifugal dizzy is supposed to have a better advance curve for a mildly tuned engine (so I´m told). I guess it would work with vacuum lines though. I´ll dig up the part number for mine if you want to look out for one. They came on late 1950s busses. 30horse motors in general seem to vary pretty wildly. I´ve met people who claim theirs will run 120kph with the single carb, which is as good as mine is now with the twins. Maybe my cam is round. While it´s not much faster with the twin carbs, it [i]is [/i]noticeably quicker off the mark and you get more overlap in the gears. It will now generally hold 50mph up steep hills on the autobahn too, which it wouldn´t before. And if not then i can drop to third and scream it along at 50mph anyway. Its more flexible in general.[/quote] Hi, that was quick! :lol: Are you running a Bosch 010 dizzy? I think from memory was fitted the late 30 horse bus engines and these are now very popular with the "vintage speed" lot. If you dont mind getting your part number that would be great. I know that even "Mr Distributor", Glenn Ring , struggles to find these to restore! https://www.glenn-ring.com/010/ Thanks. 8)

Posted by: 54 Gertie - 29 October 2009 13:51:03

[quote=JD] Hard to say how much better it is as I fitted the twin carbs to add more power, only to discover that the reason it was so bad before, was that the original dizzy was kippered. So it was awful before and now it´s only pretty bad.:lol: The centrifugal dizzy is supposed to have a better advance curve for a mildly tuned engine (so I´m told). I guess it would work with vacuum lines though. I´ll dig up the part number for mine if you want to look out for one. They came on late 1950s busses. 30horse motors in general seem to vary pretty wildly. I´ve met people who claim theirs will run 120kph with the single carb, which is as good as mine is now with the twins. Maybe my cam is round. While it´s not much faster with the twin carbs, it [i]is [/i]noticeably quicker off the mark and you get more overlap in the gears. It will now generally hold 50mph up steep hills on the autobahn too, which it wouldn´t before. And if not then i can drop to third and scream it along at 50mph anyway. Its more flexible in general.[/quote] Hi, that was quick! :lol: Are you running a Bosch 010 dizzy? I think from memory was fitted the late 30 horse bus engines and these are now very popular with the "vintage speed" lot. If you dont mind getting your part number that would be great. I know that even "Mr Distributor", Glenn Ring , struggles to find these to restore! https://www.glenn-ring.com/010/ Thanks. 8)

Posted by: JD - 29 October 2009 14:39:43
No, it´s not an 010. I used a VJ4BR8 (which is identical to a VJR4BR8 or a 0 231 129 019) Glen Ring told me they´re the one you want for a mild 36horser.

Posted by: 54 Gertie - 29 October 2009 14:49:08
[quote=JD]No, it´s not an 010. I used a VJ4BR8 (which is identical to a VJR4BR8 or a 0 231 129 019) Glen Ring told me they´re the one you want for a mild 36horser.[/quote] So you are running a 019. From The Samba it seems that on a mild 30 horser, a 019 is better than a 010. Just as you say. Proves my ignorance! :lol: [quote="Glenn"] The 019 is great on stock and mild performance engines. The 010 works best on mild to high performance. The 010 has a few more degrees advance and it's all in at a lower RPM. The 019 is much better than a 009... anyday. Just remember that any 019 is atleast 40 years old, so it should be cleaned and relubricted at a minimum. BTW... the 019 came in the standard black or the metalic blue when sold in the "Screamer" kit.[/quote]

Posted by: 54 Gertie - 29 October 2009 14:49:08

[quote=JD]No, it´s not an 010. I used a VJ4BR8 (which is identical to a VJR4BR8 or a 0 231 129 019) Glen Ring told me they´re the one you want for a mild 36horser.[/quote] So you are running a 019. From The Samba it seems that on a mild 30 horser, a 019 is better than a 010. Just as you say. Proves my ignorance! :lol: [quote="Glenn"] The 019 is great on stock and mild performance engines. The 010 works best on mild to high performance. The 010 has a few more degrees advance and it's all in at a lower RPM. The 019 is much better than a 009... anyday. Just remember that any 019 is atleast 40 years old, so it should be cleaned and relubricted at a minimum. BTW... the 019 came in the standard black or the metalic blue when sold in the "Screamer" kit.[/quote]

Posted by: Donder - 17 November 2009 20:42:56
[quote=Torben]I have just bought a kit without carbs for app. 400 euro. I just called mr. Reichert on the phone and ordred the complete manifold kit with the rebuild kit for my carbs. Mr. Reichert speaks a very nice english so no troubles here. About 4 weeks later I got a big package with all the goodis. The kit is very comprehensive and complete it is easy to install. The only thing I have done is making two new rods for the acc. pumps to make the amount of fuel smaller from them. I made them 8 mm longer than the originals and made a 4mm thread for easy adjustment. I use a distribitor from a split bus without vaccum advance. [/quote] hello, i got a 30hp engine from a friend with the same riechert kit that suffers from drowning when i open the throttle. I was thinking that the acc. pump injected to much when opening the throttle thus drowning the motor what causes it to die or to start hesitating (and shaking). Could you ( or someone else offcourse)post a pic of modified rods for the acc pump? I was thinking to shortening the springs or as you suggested to make new rods, longer than stock. A pic would really be handy. thx in advance Philip

Posted by: Donder - 17 November 2009 20:42:56

[quote=Torben]I have just bought a kit without carbs for app. 400 euro. I just called mr. Reichert on the phone and ordred the complete manifold kit with the rebuild kit for my carbs. Mr. Reichert speaks a very nice english so no troubles here. About 4 weeks later I got a big package with all the goodis. The kit is very comprehensive and complete it is easy to install. The only thing I have done is making two new rods for the acc. pumps to make the amount of fuel smaller from them. I made them 8 mm longer than the originals and made a 4mm thread for easy adjustment. I use a distribitor from a split bus without vaccum advance. [/quote] hello, i got a 30hp engine from a friend with the same riechert kit that suffers from drowning when i open the throttle. I was thinking that the acc. pump injected to much when opening the throttle thus drowning the motor what causes it to die or to start hesitating (and shaking). Could you ( or someone else offcourse)post a pic of modified rods for the acc pump? I was thinking to shortening the springs or as you suggested to make new rods, longer than stock. A pic would really be handy. thx in advance Philip

Posted by: JD - 17 November 2009 22:18:14

[quote=Donder] hello, i got a 30hp engine from a friend with the same riechert kit that suffers from drowning when i open the throttle. I was thinking that the acc. pump injected to much when opening the throttle thus drowning the motor what causes it to die or to start hesitating (and shaking). Could you ( or someone else offcourse)post a pic of modified rods for the acc pump? I was thinking to shortening the springs or as you suggested to make new rods, longer than stock. A pic would really be handy. thx in advance Philip[/quote] Find out what jets are in it and give Hr Riechert a call. He´ll be able to tell you whats up.

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