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Posted by: zelensis61 - 10 September 2010 19:18:40
Well , it is a while that I posted something new on the Hebmüller subject so here I go... First, Does anybody know the Heb that is sold last week in Swiss towards an "unknown buyer" :shock: ? The story and ad was like an original heb, in storage from 1954 until 2005, untouched :shock: :shock: was put up for sale last week and in a short time ...SOLD..... Damnn, I missed that one. :( The good thing is that it will come to Belgium probably.:lol: Now the main thing that I want to let you know is the following: I have something discovered as : lost and found. Do you remember the picts in Black and White from years ago in the Volksworld about a lost heb ...scrapped hebmuller from 1950 in Swiss... Well to be honnest I found it a pitty to scrap such a car with this less damage....And so must have thinked the owner of the scrapp yard from swiss.. The text was written by Bob Shail and there is the story it was scrapped. While observating the picts he posted in Volksworld, I found some rare things: First was the Antenna in the left front 1/4 pannel. An antenna with rather big foot placed next to the sema. Then I see the "CH" chroom indexes on the engine cover on a very specific place. Then I see the 2 holes in the engine lid where the nr plate is screwed on, Then I see that the original rear scuttle with no cut outs for the single tip was wrecked. Then i see that the engine cover had a dent , Then I see the wide pressing of the stress points where the licence plate should be mounted Then I see that the front right rocker had a dent due to the wrecked right door..... Then I noticed that in the text it is an all black car....I see the drum on the front wheel as a Black iron item , compaired that to the wheelcenter .....there is another shade of color. Also the tires should be black but have an other shade as the car.. Hmm. I get suspicious about the color ....and think the car is actualy red in stead of black...Maybe original black but the pict could be of a dark red car. I further investigate the picts and compare them to picts of hebs I have seen so far in detail.. Guess what...the red heb that is in Belgium , with nr 458, owner Pascal Knockaert was black, is since long time red but was most likely a Black car. The car is now with a dual exhaust cut out rear apron due to a tune up in the past, it wears the CH index on the same spot, it wears the same antenna on the same spot, it wears another door on the right side, it is repaired on the right side rocker, it has a repair of a nasty dent on the .....engin lid on exactly the same spot as the one on the black and white picts .. It has the wide pressings, there are only a few cars who have them. And the car is a Swiss 1950 hebmuller.....It could it be a coïncidence....yess but not on 696 cars made....that is a little to much coïncidence, specialy with the wide pressings.... So I asked Pascal to investigate his car and he confirmed the details.... Never say a car is scrapped if you not have seen it in the crusher.... That is my slogan now.... If someone have other story's of scrapped Hebmullers....I whould like to investigate it :lol: . Best regards Peter. 8) [ATTACH]4870[/Attach] [ATTACH]4871[/Attach] [ATTACH]4881[/Attach] [ATTACH]4882[/Attach]

Posted by: zelensis61 - 10 September 2010 19:18:40

Well , it is a while that I posted something new on the Hebmüller subject so here I go... First, Does anybody know the Heb that is sold last week in Swiss towards an "unknown buyer" :shock: ? The story and ad was like an original heb, in storage from 1954 until 2005, untouched :shock: :shock: was put up for sale last week and in a short time ...SOLD..... Damnn, I missed that one. :( The good thing is that it will come to Belgium probably.:lol: Now the main thing that I want to let you know is the following: I have something discovered as : lost and found. Do you remember the picts in Black and White from years ago in the Volksworld about a lost heb ...scrapped hebmuller from 1950 in Swiss... Well to be honnest I found it a pitty to scrap such a car with this less damage....And so must have thinked the owner of the scrapp yard from swiss.. The text was written by Bob Shail and there is the story it was scrapped. While observating the picts he posted in Volksworld, I found some rare things: First was the Antenna in the left front 1/4 pannel. An antenna with rather big foot placed next to the sema. Then I see the "CH" chroom indexes on the engine cover on a very specific place. Then I see the 2 holes in the engine lid where the nr plate is screwed on, Then I see that the original rear scuttle with no cut outs for the single tip was wrecked. Then i see that the engine cover had a dent , Then I see the wide pressing of the stress points where the licence plate should be mounted Then I see that the front right rocker had a dent due to the wrecked right door..... Then I noticed that in the text it is an all black car....I see the drum on the front wheel as a Black iron item , compaired that to the wheelcenter .....there is another shade of color. Also the tires should be black but have an other shade as the car.. Hmm. I get suspicious about the color ....and think the car is actualy red in stead of black...Maybe original black but the pict could be of a dark red car. I further investigate the picts and compare them to picts of hebs I have seen so far in detail.. Guess what...the red heb that is in Belgium , with nr 458, owner Pascal Knockaert was black, is since long time red but was most likely a Black car. The car is now with a dual exhaust cut out rear apron due to a tune up in the past, it wears the CH index on the same spot, it wears the same antenna on the same spot, it wears another door on the right side, it is repaired on the right side rocker, it has a repair of a nasty dent on the .....engin lid on exactly the same spot as the one on the black and white picts .. It has the wide pressings, there are only a few cars who have them. And the car is a Swiss 1950 hebmuller.....It could it be a coïncidence....yess but not on 696 cars made....that is a little to much coïncidence, specialy with the wide pressings.... So I asked Pascal to investigate his car and he confirmed the details.... Never say a car is scrapped if you not have seen it in the crusher.... That is my slogan now.... If someone have other story's of scrapped Hebmullers....I whould like to investigate it :lol: . Best regards Peter. 8) [ATTACH]4870[/Attach] [ATTACH]4871[/Attach] [ATTACH]4881[/Attach] [ATTACH]4882[/Attach]

Posted by: oval56 - 10 September 2010 21:35:44
what a cool story...:shock::beer: now we know why the car has al the black parts on it.... this i stooo cool, i wish i would know also the story of mine :evil: :cry: by the way... again aswiss car?? quick sold...cool have to check my swiss guys whats going on there..

Posted by: zelensis61 - 12 September 2010 13:02:10
Yess Andy. It seems that swiss cars will sell quick. I hope to get more info on that one. The radar is set out... Fingers crossed to get in touch with the buyer. I realy hope it is another untouched heb. This give hopefuly acces to details that we only can guess... I have a new mission :lol:

Posted by: austria - 12 September 2010 21:10:52
Hi Peter! What do you meen? "I have a new mission " regards :beer: :beer: :beer:

Posted by: zelensis61 - 12 September 2010 21:14:59
:lol: Hallo Roland. I mean that I need to find simular story's to find out who's Heb is wrecked and who's not. I know that 140 aproximate are not wrecked....Pascal's is nr 141 but rescued.... Now I need to rescue some more. And I need to visit Pascal to check something out:lol: like where are the dents and where is the fridge :beer: :beer: :beer: :shock: Wie geht es mit dein detective arbeit? Noch etwas neues?

Posted by: zelensis61 - 12 September 2010 21:14:59

:lol: Hallo Roland. I mean that I need to find simular story's to find out who's Heb is wrecked and who's not. I know that 140 aproximate are not wrecked....Pascal's is nr 141 but rescued.... Now I need to rescue some more. And I need to visit Pascal to check something out:lol: like where are the dents and where is the fridge :beer: :beer: :beer: :shock: Wie geht es mit dein detective arbeit? Noch etwas neues?

Posted by: vintagevw - 14 September 2010 12:50:09
You're welcome Peter. There is some cold Belgian beer in the fridge in my garage! :beer: :beer: :beer:

Posted by: heb623 - 14 September 2010 13:12:30
[quote=vintagevw]You're welcome Peter. There is some cold Belgian beer in the fridge in my garage! :beer: :beer: :beer: [/quote] So Pascal, you only offer beer to good friends! Last time I was with you, you offered me a pint of ......... water!!!!! But ofcourse I couldn't tell you a story:shock: such as Peters and that really deserves one or more beers, not?:wink: :twisted: ET

Posted by: zelensis61 - 14 September 2010 18:05:01
[quote=vintagevw]You're welcome Peter. There is some cold Belgian beer in the fridge in my garage! :beer: :beer: :beer: [/quote] Ok Pascal, And I am looking forward to it...I reed recently that your garage was enlarged....is that also the same for the fridge? :lol: If I am ready with that metal part that your car does not have....I will call you. Best regards. I hope to get my hands on the original picts...8)

Posted by: zelensis61 - 14 September 2010 18:05:01

[quote=vintagevw]You're welcome Peter. There is some cold Belgian beer in the fridge in my garage! :beer: :beer: :beer: [/quote] Ok Pascal, And I am looking forward to it...I reed recently that your garage was enlarged....is that also the same for the fridge? :lol: If I am ready with that metal part that your car does not have....I will call you. Best regards. I hope to get my hands on the original picts...8)

Posted by: vintagevw - 14 September 2010 23:46:13
[quote=heb623]So Pascal, you only offer beer to good friends! Last time I was with you, you offered me a pint of ......... water!!!!! At that time ET you weren't my friend yet! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: You have to come back... :beer: :beer: :lol:

Posted by: heb623 - 15 September 2010 07:28:57
[quote=vintagevw You have to come back... :beer: :beer: :lol: [/quote] When I need a new front window, ok?:wink: :evil: ET

Posted by: vintagevw - 15 September 2010 12:41:31
Deal! :wink:

Posted by: vintagevw - 15 September 2010 12:42:58
The Swiss heb should be at 10km from my home now.....

Posted by: oval56 - 15 September 2010 13:58:37
[quote=vintagevw]The Swiss heb should be at 10km from my home now.....[/quote] we ned PICTURES and DETAILS... or does google street view work ? :shock: :shock: :lol: :beer:

Posted by: vintagevw - 17 September 2010 22:33:16
We have to be patient... :beer:

Posted by: oval56 - 20 September 2010 07:26:11
[quote=vintagevw]We have to be patient... :beer: [/quote] :cry: :cry: :cry: :wink: we will ..

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