Can anyone confirm when the round wiper arms fitted to Split window Beetles were changed to the flat section ones? Was it at the end of Split or Zwitter production, or did they continue through to the end of 1953 (ie fitted to 1953 Ovals)?
Also, for 1953, what should the profile be for the wiper rubbers?
Thanks,
Dave
Posted by: heb623 - 19 March 2013 12:29:35
Hello Dave,
My book says that the round wiper erms changed 01.10.1952!
However my book doesn't say's anything of what kind of rubber(s) that was used!!
That's a purist question!!!:rofl:
:twisted: ET
Posted by: vintagebug - 19 March 2013 12:44:43
Thanks ET.
Posted by: GKL 7 - 19 March 2013 12:48:17
[quote=vintagebug]
Also, for 1953, what should the profile be for the wiper rubbers?
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ANORAK :roll:
Posted by: vintagebug - 19 March 2013 12:54:18
[quote=GKL 7]ANORAK :roll:
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Yep!
You can talk, given the cars you've owned in the past...:d
Just trying my best to get it right, George :wink:
Posted by: Rattletrap - 19 March 2013 15:07:41
Yep, changed with the Beetle's first radical redesign from the original KdF style to the new 'juke box' style dashed split, or [i]Zwitter[/i] as known today.
Chassis number 1-0397 015 onward.
Posted by: vintagebug - 19 March 2013 15:20:35
[quote=Rattletrap]Chassis number 1-0397 015 onward.[/quote]
Cheers John.
Posted by: Rattletrap - 19 March 2013 15:48:35
[quote=vintagebug]Cheers John.[/quote]
Just trying to look as though I'm a VW nut, Dave:d
Posted by: heb623 - 19 March 2013 16:09:37
[quote=Rattletrap]Just trying to look as though I'm a VW nut, Dave:d [/quote]
Don't know how tough you are
but my "book" say it changed at Fahrgestell Nr 1 - 0 397 023
Who is tough now?:omg:
:twisted: ET
Posted by: vintagebug - 19 March 2013 16:20:58
[quote=Rattletrap]Chassis number 1-0397 015 onward.[/quote]
[quote=heb623]but my "book" say it changed at Fahrgestell Nr 1 - 0 397 023.[/quote]
So we have a stand-off!! :d A whole 8 numbers difference.... :roll: Luckily my car isn't between 015 and 023 then, isn't it??!!
Posted by: nicolass - 19 March 2013 18:54:09
Sorry ET but zwitter has also round wiper arms.
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Posted by: Rattletrap - 19 March 2013 19:19:22
[quote=vintagebug]So we have a stand-off!! :d A whole 8 numbers difference.... :roll: Luckily my car isn't between 015 and 023 then, isn't it??!!
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Ah well, pistols at dawn. I'm just off to book my cat into the cat's home.:cry:
Posted by: Rattletrap - 19 March 2013 19:24:13
[quote=nicolass]Sorry ET but zwitter has also round wiper arms.
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Do you say that because you've recently seen a Zwitter fitted with them, or a picture of a restored Zwitter fitted with them, or, because you've seen old original archive images of Zwitters with them:?:
Posted by: vintagebug - 19 March 2013 22:08:41
[quote=Rattletrap]Do you say that because you've recently seen a Zwitter fitted with them, or a picture of a restored Zwitter fitted with them, or, because you've seen old original archive images of Zwitters with them:?:[/quote]
I think that picture is of Nicolass's own Zwitter. But I don't know how original the car is. Nicolass?
Interesting, because I had a feeling that the round wiper arms were fitted to Zwitters, and also to 1953 Ovals up to a certain date. I'm just not sure what that date was...
Posted by: vintagebug - 19 March 2013 23:57:31
Well I've done a bit of research &, according to VW Progressive Refinements, the wiper arm changed from round to flat on 21 December 1953. The blades changed on the same date.
Does anyone know how accurate Progressive Refinements is?
Posted by: nicolass - 21 March 2013 17:56:07
[quote=vintagebug]I think that picture is of Nicolass's own Zwitter. But I don't know how original the car is. Nicolass?
Interesting, because I had a feeling that the round wiper arms were fitted to Zwitters, and also to 1953 Ovals up to a certain date. I'm just not sure what that date was...
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Dave my zwitter is 100% original
You are correct the date 21-12-53 chassie 1-0575417 is the change of the wipers and some other
Posted by: Rattletrap - 21 March 2013 18:09:37
[quote=Rattletrap]Just trying to look as though I'm a VW nut, Dave:d [/quote]
I clearly did not succeed.:roll:
Posted by: rudolf hucker - 21 March 2013 19:15:55
My Zwitter had them.
Posted by: vintagebug - 21 March 2013 19:29:09
[quote=nicolass]Dave my zwitter is 100% original
You are correct the date 21-12-53 chassie 1-0575417 is the change of the wipers and some other [/quote]
Thanks Nicolass.
[quote=Rattletrap]I clearly did not succeed.[/quote]
No, but a good effort all the same! :wink:
[quote=rudolf hucker]My Zwitter had them.[/quote]
Cheers for that.
Ok, so it looks like my '53 should have them. I know it's unlikely, but does anyone have a set of decent original round wiper arms, blades & bases for sale (for a deluxe, not standard)?
Posted by: heb623 - 22 March 2013 10:59:51
[quote=nicolass]Sorry ET but zwitter has also round wiper arms.
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I never told that a Zwitter had no round wiper arms, did I?
Nicol ass what chassisnr has your zwitter?
:twisted: ET
Posted by: Old Blue - 22 March 2013 12:18:09
Its a minor detail. For useability the flat type are more durable and clear the screen better.
Posted by: heb623 - 23 March 2013 05:50:42
[quote=nicolass]Sorry ET but zwitter has also round wiper arms.
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When did I say that a zwitter did not have round wipers than?:shock:
:evil: ET
Posted by: nicolass - 23 March 2013 18:25:08
[quote=heb623]Hello Dave,
My book says that the round wiper erms changed 01.10.1952!
However my book doesn't say's anything of what kind of rubber(s) that was used!!
That's a purist question!!!:rofl:
:twisted: ET[/quote]
Your book is not correct you dont need it anymore trow it in the fireplace
Zwitter was made after 1-10-52 and has round wiperarms even so the early ovals
Posted by: heb623 - 23 March 2013 20:25:53
[quote=nicolass]Your book is not correct you dont need it anymore trow it in the fireplace
Zwitter was made after 1-10-52 and has round wiperarms even so the early ovals[/quote]
Sorry Nicol ass you have to throw the book in your stove, overhere in Belgium the people are already more civilised and developed they just use more modern heating systems!!!:rofl:
But about the wiper issue you are wright! I overlooked a page of my famous book!!!
I looked again and saw the mistake I made!!!:oops:
The change on "Scheibenwischer: arme aus flachprofiel, Blätter-Tannenbaum profil. Metalleffekt Lackiert. Bisher: verchromt
[b]Changed on 21.12.1953 Chassisnr 1 - 0575 417[/b]
Sorry again, but atleast you can not say that I don't correct my mistakes!!:p
:twisted: ET
Posted by: Rod_vw - 28 March 2013 13:42:58
Let's throw another stone on the water!
21.12.1953 says change to flat arms painted metallic effect from round arms CHROME. Were they always chrome? My guess is no but is there any documentary evidence to say so? I would like to know for the '46.
By the way the confusion over Oct 1952 and Dec 1953 comes with the note at Oct 52 saying strengthened wipers which I guess some have taken as the change from round to flat arms.
For the benefit of the OP, I have some of each type (flat & round arm) and can dig them out and compare the rubber if he requires me to.
Rod.
Posted by: Rattletrap - 28 March 2013 19:20:50
[quote=Rod_vw]By the way the confusion over Oct 1952 and Dec 1953 comes with the note at Oct 52 saying strengthened wipers which I guess some have taken as the change from round to flat arms.Rod.[/quote]
I think that was where I went adrift, Rod:oops:
Posted by: vintagebug - 30 March 2013 00:53:51
Were SWF the only OEM supplier for the round wiper arms & bases? Or were there others as well, eg Bosch?
