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Posted by: overrestored - 21 August 2006 05:09:57
Did anybody see this 1950 karmann sell at the Gooding Auction in Pebble Beach/Monterey yesterday??? I am wondering what it sold for??? https://www.goodingco.com/auctions/catalogues/pebble06/lot72.html Eric

Posted by: overrestored - 23 August 2006 07:26:51
I just heard it went for 25k US! (plus auction fees) yes... you heard that right... $25,000. how many of you would have bid higher!... a lot higher.

Posted by: six-o-one - 23 August 2006 08:18:41
If that's right, it's cheap as chips! :shock: :D

Posted by: pre67vw - 23 August 2006 13:14:33
Sounds about right to me... :?

Posted by: '50 Karmann - 23 August 2006 19:32:36
[quote="pre67vw"]Sounds about right to me... :? [/quote] Come on Rob. Get yourself upto speed :D thats about £13,250 + fees. Very reasonable

Posted by: pre67vw - 23 August 2006 22:41:48
[quote="'50 Karmann"] Come on Rob. Get yourself upto speed :D thats about £13,250 + fees. Very reasonable[/quote] With our current exchange rate, it works out pretty good for us - but it wasn't [i]that[/i] long ago the pound was roughly equal to the dollar. Just because our exchange rate is good doesn't mean the car is worth twice as much - its still $25k (Which still sounds about right to me - nicely mellowed older restoration).

Posted by: pre67vw - 23 August 2006 22:41:48

[quote="'50 Karmann"] Come on Rob. Get yourself upto speed :D thats about £13,250 + fees. Very reasonable[/quote] With our current exchange rate, it works out pretty good for us - but it wasn't [i]that[/i] long ago the pound was roughly equal to the dollar. Just because our exchange rate is good doesn't mean the car is worth twice as much - its still $25k (Which still sounds about right to me - nicely mellowed older restoration).

Posted by: '50 Karmann - 23 August 2006 23:18:20
OK Rob. But lets look at recent prices whether they have been optomistic or not. X Jozi Toth car (50 cab) asking price $75,000 Dr Macs car (52 cab) interest from Japan at $125,000. Here in the U.K Sean Geddes '52 cab £40.000 Yes thats £££££'s I'm sure some of our US visitors would agree the car was cheap.They expected the car to go for it's selling price X 3. My Father used to tell me how there was $4 to the £ many years ago,imagine that,no use today though. The fact is the car could have been stood on a U.K dock for approx £15.000 and that's a steal. Rarer than a Heb and we all know what they are selling for to-day. That was the bargain of the year,and we all missed out.

Posted by: '50 Karmann - 23 August 2006 23:18:20

OK Rob. But lets look at recent prices whether they have been optomistic or not. X Jozi Toth car (50 cab) asking price $75,000 Dr Macs car (52 cab) interest from Japan at $125,000. Here in the U.K Sean Geddes '52 cab £40.000 Yes thats £££££'s I'm sure some of our US visitors would agree the car was cheap.They expected the car to go for it's selling price X 3. My Father used to tell me how there was $4 to the £ many years ago,imagine that,no use today though. The fact is the car could have been stood on a U.K dock for approx £15.000 and that's a steal. Rarer than a Heb and we all know what they are selling for to-day. That was the bargain of the year,and we all missed out.

Posted by: pre67vw - 23 August 2006 23:25:11
You're probably right. But the price doesn't surprise me, outside of VW circles they're not seen as valuable cars, its only VW people that think these cars are worth the money - it was probably bought by a collector for his wife :wink:

Posted by: six-o-one - 24 August 2006 00:43:55
[quote="pre67vw"]You're probably right. But the price doesn't surprise me, outside of VW circles they're not seen as valuable cars, its only VW people that think these cars are worth the money - it was probably bought by a collector for his wife :wink: [/quote] Just supply and demand, but those who have the demand need to be told there's a supply! As you say, it's a question of marketing and letting the right VW people know it is for sale. I can only assume that the seller wasn't bothered by how much money they got for their car, isn't particulary into vintage VWs or maybe just needed to get some cash fast! I'm sure there are people in the States who would have offered a bit more money if they had known it was for sale.

Posted by: six-o-one - 24 August 2006 00:43:55

[quote="pre67vw"]You're probably right. But the price doesn't surprise me, outside of VW circles they're not seen as valuable cars, its only VW people that think these cars are worth the money - it was probably bought by a collector for his wife :wink: [/quote] Just supply and demand, but those who have the demand need to be told there's a supply! As you say, it's a question of marketing and letting the right VW people know it is for sale. I can only assume that the seller wasn't bothered by how much money they got for their car, isn't particulary into vintage VWs or maybe just needed to get some cash fast! I'm sure there are people in the States who would have offered a bit more money if they had known it was for sale.

Posted by: 2splits - 24 August 2006 01:14:31
[quote="pre67vw"]You're probably right. But the price doesn't surprise me, outside of VW circles they're not seen as valuable cars, its only VW people that think these cars are worth the money - it was probably bought by a collector for his wife :wink: [/quote] Same auction last year produced a bus for sale for $99,000.... That was a steal.

Posted by: heb623 - 24 August 2006 08:19:38
If you even can't afford a chain on your BMX you certainly can't afford to buy such a Cabriolet!!! :? :twisted: ET (the mean one)

Posted by: heb623 - 24 August 2006 08:19:49
If you even can't afford a chain on your BMX you certainly can't afford to buy such a Cabriolet!!! :? :twisted: ET (the mean one)

Posted by: heb623 - 24 August 2006 08:21:51
If you even can't afford a chain on your BMX you certainly can't afford to buy such a 1950 Karmann Cabriolet!!! :? Hahaha!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: (sorry Rob I can't help it, it's stronger than myself :roll: ) :twisted: ET (the mean one)

Posted by: pre67vw - 24 August 2006 10:18:20
[quote="'50 Karmann"]OK Rob. But lets look at recent prices whether they have been optomistic or not. X Jozi Toth car (50 cab) asking price $75,000 Dr Macs car (52 cab) interest from Japan at $125,000. Here in the U.K Sean Geddes '52 cab £40.000 Yes thats £££££'s I'm sure some of our US visitors would agree the car was cheap.They expected the car to go for it's selling price X 3. My Father used to tell me how there was $4 to the £ many years ago,imagine that,no use today though. The fact is the car could have been stood on a U.K dock for approx £15.000 and that's a steal. Rarer than a Heb and we all know what they are selling for to-day. That was the bargain of the year,and we all missed out.[/quote] Then again there was [url=https://www.klassische-automobile.com/showArt.php?ART_ID=10666]this '51 karmann[/url] - a [i]standard[/i] karmann (very rare). This sat for ages with no buyer and even went on eBay for a while without hitting the reserve. Works out at just over £12k ($23k). Change the bumpers and tail lights, you've got a very nice rare car. I know you've invested a lot of money into yours, so you're no doubt very happy with the silly prices being touted around - but lets not get carried away, I still need to buy one :wink:

Posted by: pre67vw - 24 August 2006 10:18:20

[quote="'50 Karmann"]OK Rob. But lets look at recent prices whether they have been optomistic or not. X Jozi Toth car (50 cab) asking price $75,000 Dr Macs car (52 cab) interest from Japan at $125,000. Here in the U.K Sean Geddes '52 cab £40.000 Yes thats £££££'s I'm sure some of our US visitors would agree the car was cheap.They expected the car to go for it's selling price X 3. My Father used to tell me how there was $4 to the £ many years ago,imagine that,no use today though. The fact is the car could have been stood on a U.K dock for approx £15.000 and that's a steal. Rarer than a Heb and we all know what they are selling for to-day. That was the bargain of the year,and we all missed out.[/quote] Then again there was [url=https://www.klassische-automobile.com/showArt.php?ART_ID=10666]this '51 karmann[/url] - a [i]standard[/i] karmann (very rare). This sat for ages with no buyer and even went on eBay for a while without hitting the reserve. Works out at just over £12k ($23k). Change the bumpers and tail lights, you've got a very nice rare car. I know you've invested a lot of money into yours, so you're no doubt very happy with the silly prices being touted around - but lets not get carried away, I still need to buy one :wink:

Posted by: '50 Karmann - 24 August 2006 19:36:05
then there was [url=https://www.klassische-automobile.com/showArt.php?ART_ID=10666]this '51 karmann[/url] - a [i]standard[/i] karmann (very rare). This sat for ages with no buyer and even went on eBay for a while without hitting the reserve. Works out at just over £12k ($23k). Change the bumpers and tail lights, you've got a very nice rare car. [quote]I know you've invested a lot of money into yours, so you're no doubt very happy with the silly prices being touted around - but lets not get carried away, I still need to buy one :wink: [/quote] Well they are then Rob,buy this one.And you can always tell me i paid toooo much for mine.I've seen splits (ordinary tintops) sell for more than the cabrio in auction.And tons of buses sell for more, and they are just not as rare as the bus boys are trying to crack on.

Posted by: '50 Karmann - 24 August 2006 19:36:05

then there was [url=https://www.klassische-automobile.com/showArt.php?ART_ID=10666]this '51 karmann[/url] - a [i]standard[/i] karmann (very rare). This sat for ages with no buyer and even went on eBay for a while without hitting the reserve. Works out at just over £12k ($23k). Change the bumpers and tail lights, you've got a very nice rare car. [quote]I know you've invested a lot of money into yours, so you're no doubt very happy with the silly prices being touted around - but lets not get carried away, I still need to buy one :wink: [/quote] Well they are then Rob,buy this one.And you can always tell me i paid toooo much for mine.I've seen splits (ordinary tintops) sell for more than the cabrio in auction.And tons of buses sell for more, and they are just not as rare as the bus boys are trying to crack on.

Posted by: gipf - 06 September 2006 20:58:44
[quote="pre67vw"]Sounds about right to me... :? [/quote] i agree sounds about right when you think a 57 rolls royce is up for sale for just a shade under £20000 and you get a lot more car for your money. And they say vw is a cheap and affordable classic! IT IS GETTING BEOND A JOKE :!: :!: :!: :!: :evil:

Posted by: pre67vw - 06 September 2006 23:50:21
[quote="gipf"]when you think a 57 rolls royce is up for sale for just a shade under £20000 and you get a lot more car for your money. And they say vw is a cheap and affordable classic! IT IS GETTING BEOND A JOKE :!: :!: :!: :!: :evil: [/quote] Exactly! When you start looking beyond VW's and start seeing what £20k-£25k can buy you it makes you realise how silly its got. like this for £23k: [url=https://www.practicalclassics.co.uk/classifieds/viewad.ehtml?a=1481983438;o=16746382;page=9]https://www.practicalclassics.co.uk/classifieds[/url] [img]https://www.practicalclassics.co.uk/uploads/2006/08/12/fs_u_merc_pic_18.jpg[/img] or, for £20k you could buy [b]ALL 4[/b] of these: [img]https://www.practicalclassics.co.uk/uploads/2006/09/04/fs_packard_101.jpg[/img] [img]https://www.practicalclassics.co.uk/uploads/2006/09/02/fs_2006_0416image0003.jpg[/img] [img]https://www.practicalclassics.co.uk/uploads/2006/08/30/fs_alfa_s.jpg[/img] [img]https://www.practicalclassics.co.uk/uploads/2006/08/24/fs_img_9860.jpg[/img]

Posted by: pre67vw - 06 September 2006 23:50:21

[quote="gipf"]when you think a 57 rolls royce is up for sale for just a shade under £20000 and you get a lot more car for your money. And they say vw is a cheap and affordable classic! IT IS GETTING BEOND A JOKE :!: :!: :!: :!: :evil: [/quote] Exactly! When you start looking beyond VW's and start seeing what £20k-£25k can buy you it makes you realise how silly its got. like this for £23k: [url=https://www.practicalclassics.co.uk/classifieds/viewad.ehtml?a=1481983438;o=16746382;page=9]https://www.practicalclassics.co.uk/classifieds[/url] [img]https://www.practicalclassics.co.uk/uploads/2006/08/12/fs_u_merc_pic_18.jpg[/img] or, for £20k you could buy [b]ALL 4[/b] of these: [img]https://www.practicalclassics.co.uk/uploads/2006/09/04/fs_packard_101.jpg[/img] [img]https://www.practicalclassics.co.uk/uploads/2006/09/02/fs_2006_0416image0003.jpg[/img] [img]https://www.practicalclassics.co.uk/uploads/2006/08/30/fs_alfa_s.jpg[/img] [img]https://www.practicalclassics.co.uk/uploads/2006/08/24/fs_img_9860.jpg[/img]

Posted by: JD - 07 September 2006 11:44:32
[quote="pre67vw"] Exactly! When you start looking beyond VW's and start seeing what £20k-£25k can buy you it makes you realise how silly its got. like this for £23k: [url=https://www.practicalclassics.co.uk/classifieds/viewad.ehtml?a=1481983438;o=16746382;page=9]https://www.practicalclassics.co.uk/classifieds[/url] [img]https://www.practicalclassics.co.uk/uploads/2006/08/12/fs_u_merc_pic_18.jpg[/img] [/quote] Why would you want one of these things? Not rare, not fast, not a sports car by any stretch. Just a poseur mobile that trades on looking a bit like a 300SL. Think `50s/`60s SLK and you are about there.

Posted by: JD - 07 September 2006 11:44:32

[quote="pre67vw"] Exactly! When you start looking beyond VW's and start seeing what £20k-£25k can buy you it makes you realise how silly its got. like this for £23k: [url=https://www.practicalclassics.co.uk/classifieds/viewad.ehtml?a=1481983438;o=16746382;page=9]https://www.practicalclassics.co.uk/classifieds[/url] [img]https://www.practicalclassics.co.uk/uploads/2006/08/12/fs_u_merc_pic_18.jpg[/img] [/quote] Why would you want one of these things? Not rare, not fast, not a sports car by any stretch. Just a poseur mobile that trades on looking a bit like a 300SL. Think `50s/`60s SLK and you are about there.

Posted by: pre67vw - 07 September 2006 11:48:46
[quote="JD"] Why would you want one of these things? [/quote] I don't... :wink:

Posted by: pre67vw - 07 September 2006 11:53:09
How about a nice 1969 Jaguar XKE Series II Roadster for £10k.. [img]https://midlandclassiccars.com/automall/re_images/1156675072_offer_x%20jag%20pix%2012.jpg[/img]

Posted by: JD - 07 September 2006 12:14:27
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Posted by: JD - 07 September 2006 12:19:46
Sorry - forum went wiggy!

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