merchantrader
13 years ago
As a teenager I lived next door (4 Baronsmede Court was a downstairs maisonette, I lived in an upstairs maisonette, number 5, in the next block) to Tony Levy in Ealing 1961 to 1964 and spent many, many happy hours helping maintain 10BXK - I especially remember painting the floor with red oxide paint and many happy hours driving around in 10BXK including to VW meets on the then Bovingdon Aerodrome and at USAF Bent**ters. At the time he worked for American Express and also drove around in a Morris or Austin mini bus reg 40BEW.

Tony was very kind to me but contrary to future claims he did definitely do maintenance on 10 BXK himself-nothing that required a workshop though as we worked on the road outside where he lived.

We lost contact when I moved away but I did see him around West London in 10BXK, quite a bit and as life long motoring enthusiast followed the history including buying the Autumn 1987 Classic Car Mechanics where 10 BXK is featured on the front cover (which I still have and I see has been reproduced on the net in discussions about when the car was made).

I have to say that I did always understand from Tony that 10BXK was a 1953 car BUT now I have thought about this off and on over many years I think what he meant when he told me this was that he fully acquired the car in 1953.

I say fully acquired because the story told to me by Tony was that the car was originally acquired by a group of national servicemen including Tony and that after a couple of years Tony bought the others out - this would tie in with the car being originally being bought in February 1951.

I am fairly certain that Anthony E Levy was born in 1930 or 1932 and either of these dates would tie in with him being on or just left National Service in 1951 and also relate to the story that the car was one of 100 offered to service personnel.

Tony is quoted as paying 780 dollars or £325 for the car when new but I do not see how a 19 or 21 year old ordinary bloke would have had £325 (which was a lot of money in 1951) to spend on a car and I think this figure is what the group of men paid for the car.

Even back in 1961 there was talk of 10BXK being the highest proveable mileage Beetle, proveable because Tony had worked for American Express in Germany and the UK and had to submit expenses claims including mileage and fuel receipts.

I have not seen anything on the net about where all the old papers are about the car are now but wonder if his wife, Jackie, is still alive and if she has them or perhaps one of his children,(Joanne was born whilst I knew Tony)? all of whom may be traceable.

This is just background info but I hope it is of interest and/or use to someone.
Rattletrap
13 years ago
That is a very interesting account merchantrader, and welcome to pre67vw.:beer:

Thank you for posting that information, I will add your story to Rattletrap's file.:d

I do have a large file of old and original papers with the car, although Tony's wife Elizabeth thinks there may have other items undiscovered to date.

Below is the story as passed to me by Tony's family, and there are clear similarities to your version.

"Rattletrap (UK registration 10 BXK) began life as one of a batch of 100 pre-production models built at the Wolfsburg Volkswagen factory, Germany in 1950. These trial cars incorporated the first major design changes planned for the Volkswagen since its introduction to the German public by Adolf Hitler as the KdF Wagen in 1938. They featured a completely re-styled dashboard, swivelling quarter light windows in the doors, restyled rear light clusters incorporating stop lights, stronger smooth bumpers, 15 inch wheels, and best of all, hydraulic brakes as well as other changes.

Oddly enough the antiquated split rear window, flip-out direction signals, 6 volt electrics and non-syncromesh gearbox from the KdF days were retained – and there was still no fuel guage. These 100 cars were not intended for sale to the general public, and most were supplied to serving and support personnel of the US Occupation Forces in Germany at a special discount price. One such car was to eventually become the personal transport of a Mr Tony Levy.

Tony, then 19, bought this car in 1951 jointly with two fellow American serviceman, it had only five miles on the clock. When his two friends went back to America in 1953 he acquired full ownership of it. At that time, Tony was a travel agent working in association with the military. His work involved travelling to bases all over Europe, and for his business he needed to keep details of fuel usege and mileage, records that were later to be so important. Back in ‘civvy street’ he continued to work as a travel agent, so his car’s mileage continued to grow at a pace.

During the late 1950’s Tony often bought his Volkswagen over to the UK. He managed to have it at the opening of the M1 motorway and it was among the first cars to drive along the new road. In 1961 he settled down in Middlesex (Greater London) along with his tireless ‘Beetle’ which was UK registered as 10 BXK, though he would still often dispaly the original US Forces in Germany plates which are still with the car today.

Tony’s use of the car was almost constant in connection with business as well as for leisure and family. The mileage continued to grow rapidly, with huge mile stones being passed. In 1963 at 280,000 miles the original engine seized with oil starvation, the replacement engine covered a further 238,000 miles expiring in 1971. As a thank-you for having use of the car for publicity services, VW donated the third engine which managed 226,000 miles until 1978, when the fourth and present engine was fitted. The original gearbox disintigrated in 1980 at astonishing 727,000 miles.

By 1969 the car was appearing in the press and motoring books and journals, as well as publicity campaigns. By now Tony’s nick-name for the car of Rattletrap had stuck. Tony used to admit to driving Rattletrap hard and not pampering it. He also admitted to having little mechanical aptitude, so the car led a hard life. In 1970 Tony took Rattletrap back to its birth place, the Volkswagen factory in Wolfsburg, Germany. On examination VW found much corrosion and metal fatigue in evidence, advising him to drive the car back to England while he still could! Later Volkswagen supplied a replacement chassis to Tony back in the UK.

In the early 1970’s Rattletrap was in collision with a new Volvo, both cars were written off, but determined Tony had Rattletrap repaired and back on the road. By the mid 1970’s interest in early VWs was growing in the UK, VW events began springing up around the country, with Rattletrap almost always in attendance. Rattletrap even made it on television, appearing on the BBC’s ‘Nationwide’ current affairs programme and in 1987 on ITV’s ‘The London Programme’, with Michael Aspel cracking open the bubbly as Rattletrap was driven round-and-round the studio and through the 800,000 mile barrier, at that time considered to be the world’s highest mileage Beetle.

Tony regulary took Rattletrap abroad, but in 1990 disaster struck as Tony was finishing a tour of Mexico with his wife Elizabeth. Driving down through the USA from Mexico, Rattletrap was smashed in the side by a 10 ton MAC truck ‘driven by a sweet little old lady’ according to Tony. The damage was massive, so much so that Elizabeth’s seat was pushed over the central chassis tunnel onto Tony’s side of the car. Amazingly and thankfully, neither Tony or Elizabeth were seriously injured, testament to the VWs shape and construction, even allowing for the years of metal fatigue the car had. Rattletrap on the other hand had surely ‘had it’ being up to two foot narrower across the middle.

But no, Tony would not abandon his faithful friend for scrap. Once he and Elizabeth were out of hospital he arranged to have the mangled wreck of the once car shipped back to England.

Once Rattletrap was back at his Greater London home the call went out. Beetle enthusiasts, parts suppiers and repair shops at home and abroad, contributed towards the many early parts needed to reconstruct the car that was now so well-loved in the VW world – a legend which could not be allowed to die. So much so, that a VW repair specialist in Nuneaton offered to take on the task of rebuilding Rattletrap at cost to themselves. It was a massive job that involved another early Beetle being cut-up for body panels to replace Rattletrap’s wrecked passenger side.

Tony was near to tears when his beloved car was handed back to him looking great and ready to drive to the VW Action 1991 show the following week. Sadly, Tony passed away January 1997, he’d always said that Rattletrap would outlive him. Tony’s other interest was wild-fowl, particularly ducks. He’d often visit the Bently Wild-Fowl and Motor Museum in East Sussex, so it was no surprise that Elizabeth had Rattletrap put on show there, where it remained until 2009.

Today Rattletrap is back ‘home’ in the London area, now part of a vintage Beetle collection in the hands of a life-long VW Beetle enthusiast.

Rattletrap is believed to be the highest mileage Beetle in existence today, although a 1963 Beetle in the USA was claimed to be the record-breaker in the 1990’s. There is however, no trace of this car or its records today, so it probably no longer exists
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I know that Rob the site's owner wants to keep the topic in one place, so I expect he'll want to move these posts into the main thread.

I'd like to say thank you to Rob also.:beer:
Rattletrap – the Volkswagen Beetle that has covered an incredible mileage equivalent to over 35 times around the planet :omg:
Running nifty since 1950… the King of Volkswagens:beer: Why not make friends with this famous little VW – he's on facebook!
:d
http://forums.pre67vw.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16378 
Mike Peckham
13 years ago
All very interesting, except that VW themselves have no record of ever having produced a batch of 100 “special Production” cars in 1950 and the original chassis number confirms that the car was built on 15th January 1953.

Tony was a great story teller, there is almost certainly some fact in amongst his tales, but the origins of 10 BXK I think have been bent a little to match a mileage record that was begun on an earlier car…

Mike :beer:

July 1957 UK supplied RHD Oval. 1972 World Champion Beetle. 1978 UK supplied RHD 1303LS Cabriolet. 1973 UK supplied RHD 1303s.
Rattletrap
13 years ago

All very interesting, except that VW themselves have no record of ever having produced a batch of 100 “special Production” cars in 1950 and the original chassis number confirms that the car was built on 15th January 1953.

Tony was a great story teller, there is almost certainly some fact in amongst his tales, but the origins of 10 BXK I think have been bent a little to match a mileage record that was begun on an earlier car…

Mike :beer:

Mike Peckham wrote:


The problem here though Mike is that you also claim that the chassis you mention above was then subsequently replaced with a later type. The chassis with the car today IS actually a 1953.:shock:

Rattletrap – the Volkswagen Beetle that has covered an incredible mileage equivalent to over 35 times around the planet :omg:
Running nifty since 1950… the King of Volkswagens:beer: Why not make friends with this famous little VW – he's on facebook!
:d
http://forums.pre67vw.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16378 
Mike Peckham
13 years ago
Tony registered the car in the ancient beetles register before the chassis was changed, he therfore qquoted the original chassis number. The replacement chassis was a post August 55 type. This is well documneted, there is copious photgraphic evidence of this and I, along with many others who frequented the shows in the 80s and 90s remember that the car had an easily identifiable post '55 chassis fitted.

If the car now has a '53 chassis fitted, it was fitted whilst the car was in the hands of the Bently Wildfowl Museum. Which seems unlikely. Or subsequently by you?

John, you have stated that the current chassis number is ilegible, how therefore can you be certain that it is a '53?

Regardless of all that though, VW themselves seem to have absolutely no record of this experimental batch of mythical "special production" cars. There doesn't appear to be any reference, either anecdotal or documneted anywhere else. If you can get some hard evidence from Volkswagen to prove that this batch was produced, and that they were issued with chassis numbers indicating they were produced 2 years later, you'll have a case. Until then it's all just Tony's stories and he was a renowned story teller...

Sorry, I try not to respond to these postings, but it irritates me when these myths are portrayed as reality. You've said it yourself John, if your VW is something other than what it appears you need to get hard evidence from Volkswagen to prove it is what you say it is. Until then there should be no further discussion.

Mike
July 1957 UK supplied RHD Oval. 1972 World Champion Beetle. 1978 UK supplied RHD 1303LS Cabriolet. 1973 UK supplied RHD 1303s.
Rattletrap
13 years ago

Until then there should be no further discussion.

Mike

Mike Peckham wrote:


I agree. I'll have a good look at the chassis, and clean around the number. If I can get a good photo I'll post it up.:smile:

Rattletrap – the Volkswagen Beetle that has covered an incredible mileage equivalent to over 35 times around the planet :omg:
Running nifty since 1950… the King of Volkswagens:beer: Why not make friends with this famous little VW – he's on facebook!
:d
http://forums.pre67vw.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16378 
Mike Peckham
13 years ago

I agree. I'll have a good look at the chassis, and clean around the number. If I can get a good photo I'll post it up.:smile:

Rattletrap wrote:



Don't bother posting it until you've got the hard evidence form Volkswagen that they produced these 100 "special production" cars.

Mike :wink:

Edit: Thinking about it, could I come and see 10 BXK for myself? just to see with my own unphotoshopped eyes that it now has an earlier chassis fitted than the one that was fitted by VW in the 70s?
July 1957 UK supplied RHD Oval. 1972 World Champion Beetle. 1978 UK supplied RHD 1303LS Cabriolet. 1973 UK supplied RHD 1303s.
Rattletrap
13 years ago


Edit: Thinking about it, could I come and see 10 BXK for myself? just to see with my own unphotoshopped eyes that it now has an earlier chassis fitted than the one that was fitted by VW in the 70s?

Mike Peckham wrote:


You're not suggesting any image tampering I hope Mike…[-x

I'd only post what is photographed.:smile:

We'll stop here.:wink:

Rattletrap – the Volkswagen Beetle that has covered an incredible mileage equivalent to over 35 times around the planet :omg:
Running nifty since 1950… the King of Volkswagens:beer: Why not make friends with this famous little VW – he's on facebook!
:d
http://forums.pre67vw.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16378 
Mike Peckham
13 years ago

You're not suggesting any image tampering I hope Mike…[-x

I'd only post what is photographed.:smile:

We'll stop here.:wink:

Rattletrap wrote:



I'm free on Monday... :wink:
July 1957 UK supplied RHD Oval. 1972 World Champion Beetle. 1978 UK supplied RHD 1303LS Cabriolet. 1973 UK supplied RHD 1303s.
merchantrader
13 years ago
No more post from me. This one just to say, as someone who has known the car for 50 years and is a life time all round motoring enthusiast (49 vehicles so far and still counting over 2million, unproveable, miles driven so far) that what ever the ins and outs and the exact origin the spirit lives on in Rattletrap 10BXK.
Rattletrap
13 years ago

No more post from me. This one just to say, as someone who has known the car for 50 years and is a life time all round motoring enthusiast (49 vehicles so far and still counting over 2million, unproveable, miles driven so far) that what ever the ins and outs and the exact origin the spirit lives on in Rattletrap 10BXK.

merchantrader wrote:


I've received similar comments from others via email about Rattletrap.

I'm really pleased that there are those still around that recall how much of an icon Rattletrap became back 'in the day'.

You can be sure that I will carry the mantle so hard-earned by Tony, and that Rattletrap is a highly treasured possession to me, above ANY other VW anywhere, any place.:smile:



I'm free on Monday... :wink:

Mike Peckham wrote:


Lavenham will soon be round, Mike.:d


Rattletrap – the Volkswagen Beetle that has covered an incredible mileage equivalent to over 35 times around the planet :omg:
Running nifty since 1950… the King of Volkswagens:beer: Why not make friends with this famous little VW – he's on facebook!
:d
http://forums.pre67vw.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16378 
Mike Peckham
13 years ago





Lavenham will soon be round, Mike.:d

Rattletrap wrote:



If Monday's a problem, I'm free every evening next week and all day Sunday the 8th. :wink:

Mike :beer:

July 1957 UK supplied RHD Oval. 1972 World Champion Beetle. 1978 UK supplied RHD 1303LS Cabriolet. 1973 UK supplied RHD 1303s.
Rattletrap
13 years ago

If Monday's a problem, I'm free every evening next week and all day Sunday the 8th. :wink:

Mike :beer:

Mike Peckham wrote:


Aw come-on, I need time to swap the chassis round.:lol:

Rattletrap – the Volkswagen Beetle that has covered an incredible mileage equivalent to over 35 times around the planet :omg:
Running nifty since 1950… the King of Volkswagens:beer: Why not make friends with this famous little VW – he's on facebook!
:d
http://forums.pre67vw.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16378 
Mike Peckham
13 years ago

No more post from me. This one just to say, as someone who has known the car for 50 years and is a life time all round motoring enthusiast (49 vehicles so far and still counting over 2million, unproveable, miles driven so far) that what ever the ins and outs and the exact origin the spirit lives on in Rattletrap 10BXK.

merchantrader wrote:



I think pretty much everyone on this board would agree with you. I certainly do! But the story of Rattletrap is just that - a story. Ther might be a little bit of fact in there but it's lost in the telling now. We all know what a big story teller Tony was.

The problem comes when this ridiculous and unsubstantiated story of it being built in 1950 as a "special Production" model that even VW haven't heard of is stated as fact. If this sort of stuff is left unchallenged it becomes fact - just look at Wikipedia!

It's never a good thing to distort the truth in this way. Let's all just appreciate the story that Tony told about the car and take it with a pinch of salt.

mike :thumbup:
July 1957 UK supplied RHD Oval. 1972 World Champion Beetle. 1978 UK supplied RHD 1303LS Cabriolet. 1973 UK supplied RHD 1303s.
Mike Peckham
13 years ago

Aw come-on, I need time to swap the chassis round.:lol:

Rattletrap wrote:



I thought you already had! 😛

July 1957 UK supplied RHD Oval. 1972 World Champion Beetle. 1978 UK supplied RHD 1303LS Cabriolet. 1973 UK supplied RHD 1303s.
Old Blue
13 years ago
Can this be tagged to the end of Rattletrap as we can't access it, I'm Old Blue senior (his Dad).

The post the other day from 'merchantrader' about Rattletrap has an extra interest to this fascinating car's history for me.

I remember Rattletrap way back to 1961 same as merchantrader, I saw it now and then parked at the parade of shops not far from where we lived back then (early 1960s). I was always interested in cars even at that age and I got talking to the driver as it was left hand drive and had US Forces German plates fitted. The owner told me the year when I asked him about it. It was the same age as our then family car, a 1950 Ford Anglia, and that's how I well remember the year he gave. This was in about 1961/2 earlier than the claims made by members here taken from VW magazines stating it as 1953 car. At the time I thought it was so modern looking compared to our car. Dad wouldn't go near and have a look, he said it was a Nazi car. He'd been through the war which wasn't that long before.

Not long after I regularly I saw it again but with UK registration plates, the now famous 10 BXK. The car very soon became known with extraordinary high mileage and appeared in the local papers a few times. Years later I saw it on TV, I couldn't believe it.

'Merchantrader' mentions helping Tony rust painting the car's floor about 1961, which suggests that there was rot in the chassis. There was an instance later when Rattletrap was in a previous smash to the well known USA one, as I remember with a Volvo. It seems likely to me that then could possibly have been when the 1953 chassis was fitted if the rusted original was twisted in the crash.

I've known the Rattletrap most of my life and followed it at the 1970s-mid 80s VW shows but Tony wasn't always very approachable about it. Even so this was the Beetle that inspired myself and several others over a certain age with an interest in old Beetles. Many here are younger and wouldn't appreciate this iconic car, that's why I think that there are some moaners here who want the owner pushed off. Offered a vintage VW choice its the car I'd have, a UK based 'Split' Beetle with a great story to tell.

My son's right, you are giving the new owner a rough time. If you cannot prove Tony wrong, then don't post that either of them are liars. And where's the proof of this claim that VW Wolfsburg say that they did not make this model in 1950? If it was nonsense and the car a fraud I doubt they'd invited it over to Germany and supplied and fitted another chassis for free. I notice that the new owner has clearly posted the body number which is 1950.

1956 VW Beetle, 1962 Morris Minor, 1968 VW Beetle (Old Blue), 1972 Morris Mini, 2005 MGTF

Blue, blue, Electric Blue, that's the colour of Old Blue!
Caledfryn
13 years ago

Many here are younger and wouldn't appreciate this iconic car, that's why I think that there are some moaners here who want the owner pushed off.

Old Blue wrote:



No. People moan because he keeps repeating a non-sensical story ad infinitum and squeezing a mention of the car into every conceivable thread he posts on ... much as you seem to have done in your (nine) posts so far! Hmmmmm....


My son's right, you are giving the new owner a rough time. If you cannot prove Tony wrong, then don't post that either of them are liars.

Old Blue wrote:



It's not for us to prove that it wasn't what John/Tony says it is, it's for him to prove it is. If that were the case, I could say I've been to the moon and met an alien ... it's not for me to provide proof, it's down to you to prove I haven't! Anyway, even VW don't have records to prove the existence of this supposed prototype.

And as for you and your son, I suggest that you might like to prove your existence in time honoured motoring forumn fashion by posting a picture of a tin of Bird's custard on the bonnet of your Beetle with the two of you either side. If you can't do that, you don't exist!

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=674508 

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Caledfryn
13 years ago
Ended up re-reading this thread on Pistonheads. Basically, somone slags off Jason Plato in a posting, is then challenged by said Mr. Plato only to be told it's not really him .... soooo, it's time for the Bird's Custard challenge!


https://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=933047&mid=0&i=0&nmt=Just%20met%20Jason%20Plato...&mid=0 

Worth a read if you have a spare ten minutes.- Plato 'appears' in page 8.
GKL 7
13 years ago

No. People moan because he keeps repeating a non-sensical story ad infinitum and squeezing a mention of the car into every conceivable thread he posts on ... much as you seem to have done in your (nine) posts so far! Hmmmmm....




It's not for us to prove that it wasn't what John/Tony says it is, it's for him to prove it is. If that were the case, I could say I've been to the moon and met an alien ... it's not for me to provide proof, it's down to you to prove I haven't! Anyway, even VW don't have records to prove the existence of this supposed prototype.

Caledfryn wrote:




I concur.
If it was my car,i would want the proof.If for no one else but myself.
If you tell a doubtful story it's for you to provide the proof,not the listener.
JD
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13 years ago
Who is to say that the car you saw in 1961 wasn´t a 1950 car? Just that there seems to me to be a very good chance that it wasn´t the same car that is today known as RT. One black split Beetle looks very like another you know.
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